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Johnny Kommavongsa 08-27-18 10:28 AM

Dang. That white Fd is mint.

djseven 08-27-18 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn (Post 12296940)
Very similar to the VR that just sold but it's WHITE!!!!.......so 35,250. One thing is for certain it will sell for more than 30k unless something weird pops up during the auction.

Looks like another keeper on BAT

EDIT: just saw compression #s and AC isn't working 29k but who knows, new engine is 5k ac fix likely 1k :)


Yep I just saw compression numbers. Im guessing $24k which would be a good buy for someone who plans to keep it for a while.

gmonsen 08-27-18 01:31 PM

$34,000 is my guess. That's $40,000 minus what needs fixing.

cymfc3s 08-27-18 04:59 PM

My guess is 32-34. I'll keep an eye on it, if it stays reasonably low, I'll take a swing at it. Don't tell my wife.

Fritz Flynn 08-27-18 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by djseven (Post 12296958)
Yep I just saw compression numbers. Im guessing $24k which would be a good buy for someone who plans to keep it for a while.

If it goes that low it will easily be the best deal yet on BAT

Nice to see something other than VR

Should be fun watching this one

Michael 08-27-18 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by djseven (Post 12296934)
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1994-mazda-rx-7-17/

A lot of "northern" stuff going on the underbelly but body, interior and engine bay look clean. I'll guess $33k.

Edit: Guessing $24k after compression results were posted and AC not working.

https://grautogallery.com/vehicles/5462/1994-mazda-rx-7

I was looking at this one last year. Only reason why I didn’t buy it was cause I didn’t know California importation rules at the time.

IMAGINETHAT 08-27-18 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by Michael (Post 12297111)


https://grautogallery.com/vehicles/5462/1994-mazda-rx-7

I was looking at this one last year. Only reason why I didn’t buy it was cause I didn’t know California importation rules at the time.

Thank you for re-posting that - I just couldn't remember the name of the dealer.

Curious that the body is so pristine but there is a decent amount of under body corrosion given the mileage.

I'm still interested and will be watching the auction closely. The car being titled and registered in CA is big plus IMO.

Narfle 08-27-18 11:38 PM

Road salt is a mother. But, it's not that bad...

djseven 08-28-18 08:35 AM

Seller posted new compression numbers and that the AC blows cool air just not ice cold. I'm back to guessing $33k. Final guess.

Fritz Flynn 08-28-18 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by djseven (Post 12296958)
Yep I just saw compression numbers. Im guessing $24k which would be a good buy for someone who plans to keep it for a while.


Originally Posted by gmonsen (Post 12296992)
$34,000 is my guess. That's $40,000 minus what needs fixing.


Originally Posted by djseven (Post 12297150)
Seller posted new compression numbers and that the AC blows cool air just not ice cold. I'm back to guessing $33k. Final guess.

OK well I guess I'm back to 35,250

Crazy auction. Will be interesting to see how it ends. Appears to be a nice car. I'm not seeing much rust at all for a NE car. In other words I'd say this thing was babied for sure.

Also for those interested I have a CW PEG with all sorts of tasty mods for 35k. Extremely nice car with fresh reman (110 to 118 compression), volks, PFC/tuned by Cam, Ohlins etc...etc... Has 52k miles and I'd take it in a heart beat over this car.

Fritz Flynn 08-28-18 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by colditz_II (Post 12295938)
Fritz,

One thing to remember is that NONE of the cars from that era will be as good as a GT3. The FD is woefully underpriced in comparison despite being on par if not better than the NSX/Supra to drive. They're still rare and they're still cheap IMO. As supply starts to change hands eventually we will hit a point where there won't be any good, cheap stock cars left. The same thing that happened in 2011 on with old Berlinettas, Jalpas, etc is going to hit the FD too.

I assume you're talking 996 GT3 at that price point? Is it really that fantastic? I've had my eye on them or a 996 turbo as I think they'd be a decent place to park money for the next couple years. With only 1000 GT3s in the states it's a pretty easy bet.

You can get a very nice 997.2 GT3 for 90k

A stock FD at 40k is NOT a good deal at all.

YES the GT3 is at least 3 times the car. The body is a tank, the engine is bullet proof, the interior is good, trans is very good etc...etc... Only weakness is the diff and the coolant lines that can pop loose. Otherwise it's the only car I know of that a pro driver could take to a race track and beat on for a weekend with zero problems.

MattGold 08-28-18 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn (Post 12297157)
Crazy auction. Will be interesting to see how it ends. Appears to be a nice car. I'm not seeing much rust at all for a NE car. In other words I'd say this thing was babied for sure.

Michigan is MidWest not NE. :wink2:


colditz_II 08-28-18 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn (Post 12297162)
You can get a very nice 997.2 GT3 for 90k

A stock FD at 40k is NOT a good deal at all.

YES the GT3 is at least 3 times the car. The body is a tank, the engine is bullet proof, the interior is good, trans is very good etc...etc... Only weakness is the diff and the coolant lines that can pop loose. Otherwise it's the only car I know of that a pro driver could take to a race track and beat on for a weekend with zero problems.

Man, that's news to me. I didn't realize the 997s were that affordable.

I'm torn because I love my FD, I absolutely love looking at it, but my god is it stressful to drive. The idea of a high strung NA engine in a good chassis is calling to me. Brain says buy the 996/997 GT3 but the heart wants me to single turbo conversion the FD and just stack miles on it.

Fritz Flynn 08-28-18 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by MattGold (Post 12297167)
Michigan is MidWest not NE. :wink2:

Whether it's considered Midwest or not it's definitely NE on a map and has similar weather as the NE.

However you are right and I'm wrong :)

Fritz Flynn 08-28-18 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by colditz_II (Post 12297169)
Man, that's news to me. I didn't realize the 997s were that affordable.

I'm torn because I love my FD, I absolutely love looking at it, but my god is it stressful to drive. The idea of a high strung NA engine in a good chassis is calling to me..

YEP, in my opinion it's the best sports car for the money currently on the market.

I also love the FD and again I will always have one but the GT3 is by far the better overall car in stock form and is easily worth 90k. You'll need 30k invested into your FD to compete/beat the GT3 and you'll still blow up etc....

https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...ver-black.html

MattGold 08-28-18 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn (Post 12297170)
Whether it's considered Midwest or not it's definitely NE on a map and has similar weather as the NE.

However you are right and I'm wrong :)

We're friendly, not pretentious... we also have road salt. So that makes us MidWest. :hah:

However, I heard they're starting to use beet juice and pickle brine in some states... so less corrosion and more flavor! #winterproblems


killjoy7 08-28-18 11:15 AM

Hey guys, I'm sadly thinking of putting my FD up for sale. I'd love your honest assessment of what you think it's worth. DO we do that in this thread?

Fritz Flynn 08-28-18 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by killjoy7 (Post 12297195)
Hey guys, I'm sadly thinking of putting my FD up for sale. I'd love your honest assessment of what you think it's worth. DO we do that in this thread?

Yes :)

You will get a ton of feedback and also likely sell it LOL


Narfle 08-28-18 12:47 PM

Snark.

killjoy7 08-28-18 01:56 PM

Ok guys, here goes. Let me know what you guys think my FD is worth. Below is what I typed up as a starter.


1993 FD3S RX-7 - Silver Stone Metallic


49,445 original miles

I’m reluctantly putting my FD3S up for sale. I bought this car with 28k miles in 2012 from the original, very meticulous engineer owner. It was his ‘forever’ car until he got the Porsche bug and decided to part with it. When I took ownership of this FD, it was halfway developed into the perfect street/track car. The goal was to have a safe, reliable car capable of boulevard cruising or weekend track work. Everything on this car is done right, with quality OEM or aftermarket parts. As it sits, this car is happy purring around in traffic as a daily driver or spending all day on a track in summer with no drama. It runs rock solid, starts hot or cold, runs cool (intake air and water temp) and is reliable all day long on California 91 pump gas. The engine is completely stock internally and only modified with bolt on parts. I had it very conservatively tuned by Steve Kan to 285 WHP @12 psi. I didn’t want a dyno queen tuned within an inch of its life, I wanted a no worries car. Of course, with the parts on it (BNR turbos, V-mount, exhaust, Power FC, etc) you could easily turn up the power but I chose to play it safe and reliable. The car starts, runs and drives great. Because of its track oriented nature and the V-mount, the A/C had been removed. Other than that, all systems and components work including the electric radio antenna and the cassette deck. It’s all there and fully functional as it came from the factory. This is a beauty of a car, as clean as they get and modified the right way for longevity and fun. It still breaks my heart to be putting it up for sale but I just don’t drive it enough anymore. It’s in such good shape that I retired it from track duty and just use it for occasional weekend canyon runs. So it mostly sits – which is a shame and why I think it might be time for another owner to use it like it was intended. This is a no-issues car, clean title and adult owned since day one. Please note that with the current mods, it will not pass California emissions but it is currently street licensed and registered. Included with the car are a bunch of uninstalled parts, OEM spares, track wheels & tires, Mazda owner and shop manuals and a stack of receipts going back 25 years. If you can find a cleaner car for sale in the U.S. for less, buy it. I’m in no rush to sell so please only serious inquiries.

Thanks.


Details below.


1993 RX-7 Base. (no sunroof)


Engine:


Original 13B REW

110 psi compression on all rotor faces.

BNR Stage 3 sequential twin turbos.

Efini Y-Pipe.

Apexi Power FC & Commander.

Knightsports Intake.

Knightsports V-mount Radiator & Intercooler.

Greddy Compression tube.

HKS Twin Power ignition booster.

Remote turbo Solenoids with all Viton Hoses.

AEM Water Injection.

Supra Fuel pump.

1200cc secondary injectors.

R1 twin oil coolers.

SMB Australia Down Pipe.

Bonez high flow cat.

Racing Beat catback Exhaust.


Conservatively tuned by Steve Kan to 285 RWHP @12psi


Driveline:


Stock 5 speed - No noises or grinds.

Mazdaspeed Short Shifter (original Included).

ACT HD Clutch.

Exedy Lightweight flywheel.

Banzai Racing Differential brace.


Suspension:


Tein Type FLEX 16 Way Coilovers (extra tein springs included)

Racing Beat Front & Rear Swaybars.

Widefoot Front Swaybar Mount.

GAB Front Strut Tower brace.




Wheels:


CCW Classic 3-piece 18x10 with 285/30/18 Bridgestone Potenza RE-11


Brakes:


Front Stoptech BBK With Slotted Rotors.

Rear JDM FD rear Calipers & Rotors (extra new rotors included).

Stainless Steel lines.


Chassis / Interior:


Mazda Nardi Steering Wheel (Original wheel Included).

Leather Seats.

Prosport Peak Gauges (Boost. Water temp. Oil Temp.)

Wired for Valentine 1 Radar Detector.

Widefoot Throttle pedal extension.

M2 4-point roll bar / harness bar.

WestCo Glass Mat Battery mounted in passenger side storage bin.

FEED tow hooks F/R

JDM Tail lights.


Extras:


FC Datalogit.

Stock suspension parts.

Stock brake parts.

Stock Exhaust.

Miscellaneous Mazda factory / Knightsports replacement parts.

Stock shifter.

Enkei RPF-1 18x9.5 +45 track wheels with 285/30/18 Toyo R888

Several sets of Hawk Blue & Black Brake pads.

Mazda OEM Shop Manual & wiring supplement.

New Oil pan baffle.

New In-tank fuel collector kit.

Original spare / jack.

Original Owner’s Documents.

Receipts going back to 1993.

And probably other stuff I’m forgetting.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...1df5a9874a.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...c591acbe2a.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...67656dc51b.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...a2a3796287.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...362d35af79.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...73db1b0e15.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...9c263706a5.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...ba4e010654.jpg



Narfle 08-28-18 02:12 PM

Nice car. A lower miles silver base is a great foundation. Modifications can be a tough call, but those are very tasteful and high quality additions. You'd come out ahead selling them and taking it back to stock, if that's what the buyer wants....

Estimate: $25,500 - $32,250

arghx 08-28-18 02:13 PM

I'll say $22k to $24k. It's a 93 with a roll bar.

djseven 08-28-18 02:45 PM

Id pay $25k for the Silver Car above without hesitation and everyone knows I only buy on the low side. The car is setup very nice with some very nice mods. The cage and no AC hurt it if you were to list on BAT but I think it is a $28-30K FD. I get excited over SSM like most get excited over CW and CYM(for whatever insane reason someone would own a yellow car).

Montego 08-28-18 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by killjoy7 (Post 12297259)
Ok guys, here goes. Let me know what you guys think my FD is worth.

Details below....
1993 RX-7 Base. (no sunroof)
R1 twin oil coolers.

Personally, I would get an R1/R2 strut bar so I could advertise it as an R1 conversion. That way the uneducated people can pay you more money for the coveted "racing model" when in reality an R1/R2 is just a trim package.

Look at this engine: Though it isn't "show quality" I can tell the owner takes good care of it which as I mentioned earlier, translates to the overall condition of the car.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...67656dc51b.jpg


Name brand components, overall low mileage and good compression are all good points. Even still, tough call on the price because it requires a specialized buyer but for me I'd say it is worth around $35K. IMO the things that hurt this potential sale is that it is less appealing to the average joe because it lacks AC and it has a rather hardcore tower brace.

With that said, I am very curious on what others have to say.

killjoy7 08-28-18 02:56 PM

Thanks for the comments guys, this is super helpful for me. Here's another interior shot. Keep the suggestions coming.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...41067f845f.jpg


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