fd's future price.
01-16-14, 06:03 PM
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i have nothing against the FD, i can appreciate that they are going up in value as it sais more than words about the car. the issue is with people bloating their personal value of the car, thinking they will get a premium price except when it comes down to it, it requires a special buyer to pay the premiums.
most cars drop to being valued at several thousand $ once at rock bottom, the FD never broke $10k before turning to a rising slope.
and you forgot other wear and tear items like radiators, brakes, rubber, paint, tune ups, reupholstry, etc, etc, etc. my main problem is with the values quoted as high as $20k for FDs nearing or above 100k miles and still probably not in 100% functioning order. which is a stretch unless you find someone willing to pass over the nicer, cleaner, lower mile ones for sale a few states over. but as i said much earlier, sometimes you find that person lacking common sense and an overflowing wallet with impatience.. i've actually found those people before, but i never held out waiting for them.
most cars drop to being valued at several thousand $ once at rock bottom, the FD never broke $10k before turning to a rising slope.
and you forgot other wear and tear items like radiators, brakes, rubber, paint, tune ups, reupholstry, etc, etc, etc. my main problem is with the values quoted as high as $20k for FDs nearing or above 100k miles and still probably not in 100% functioning order. which is a stretch unless you find someone willing to pass over the nicer, cleaner, lower mile ones for sale a few states over. but as i said much earlier, sometimes you find that person lacking common sense and an overflowing wallet with impatience.. i've actually found those people before, but i never held out waiting for them.
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01-17-14, 01:22 AM
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Think about 10-20 years in the future. I'm no expert of course but I see electric and other non gasoline type engines dominating the future. I believe gasoline engines will eventually be obsolete and become a sort of oddity of the past. Add to that the oddity and rarity of the wankel and the FD is a clear hallmark of automotive history.
As far as here and now, I feel like cars like the FD, supra, gtr, and 3000gt are the equivalent to the muscle cars of the 60's and 70's in the U.S. when they were 15-20 years old they could still be had for relatively cheap and now some of the rarer ones are going for big bucks. I don't know how many times I've went to a car show or museum and my dad said "yeah I used to have one of those. I sold it for 800 bucks in 1988 so I could buy your diapers." Now the car is worth 60k...I know I don't want to be the guy who just let's it go for cheap and regrets it in the future.
As far as here and now, I feel like cars like the FD, supra, gtr, and 3000gt are the equivalent to the muscle cars of the 60's and 70's in the U.S. when they were 15-20 years old they could still be had for relatively cheap and now some of the rarer ones are going for big bucks. I don't know how many times I've went to a car show or museum and my dad said "yeah I used to have one of those. I sold it for 800 bucks in 1988 so I could buy your diapers." Now the car is worth 60k...I know I don't want to be the guy who just let's it go for cheap and regrets it in the future.
01-17-14, 10:33 AM
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If he listed it with a good ad etc... it would sell for 30k, it would be the 1st that I've heard sell in the 30s and would certainly be a good test for this thread.
With some effort I think I could sqeeze 30 out of the low mileage 95 R2 I have but I'm lazy and don't mind keeping it.
01-17-14, 08:48 PM
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Yep I've started the bidding at 25
If he listed it with a good ad etc... it would sell for 30k, it would be the 1st that I've heard sell in the 30s and would certainly be a good test for this thread.
With some effort I think I could sqeeze 30 out of the low mileage 95 R2 I have but I'm lazy and don't mind keeping it.
If he listed it with a good ad etc... it would sell for 30k, it would be the 1st that I've heard sell in the 30s and would certainly be a good test for this thread.
With some effort I think I could sqeeze 30 out of the low mileage 95 R2 I have but I'm lazy and don't mind keeping it.
Also, just picked up some RZ brakes for it, going to get some mazdaspeed rotors for it and advox coilovers which i may or may not install.
01-18-14, 03:34 AM
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Low mileage cars will still be worth some money but nearly 30k? I'm not seein that at all for most fds(99%). I don't know where you guys are seein fd's sell for nearly 30k but there's one local to me with under 20k miles on it and can't even get sold for 18k. While the supply of low mileage fds will decrease I will argue that demand for fds will decrease as well. There is only a small group of enthusiasts WILLING and ABLE to pay 30k for a low mi fd. Someone with 30k to spend has a lot of options...and I suspect more and more will pass on owning a 20 year old car with limited parts and service options available.
01-18-14, 05:08 AM
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I think there are a couple factors you all are missing here.
1) Notoriety, I know a lot of people will roll their eyes, but the fast and furious franchise has made the car a bit of a legend. This also happened before like the General Lee (69 Charger) and Bullet (67 Fast Back Mustang)
2) These cars may have been the dream of some kid who didn't have the money to get them when they were in high school, but have now become rich and want that car that was a dream back in the day. Of course now they can afford it.
3) The trend of the time. There was a time when people wanted the retro cars. Then for a while there people only saw MPG, so fuel economic cars held the value. Then comes the FR-S/BRZ and reawakens the import tuner movement which brings attention back to our cars.
4) Location Location Location. Cars like these in LA are always cheaper than in places like Oregon because there's more of them here. Funny enough the last two cars I sold went out of country. My MKIV Supra went to Switzerland and my '10 Camaro went to Japan.
the price on these will fluctuate a little. I bought mine a year ago for $13.5
1) Notoriety, I know a lot of people will roll their eyes, but the fast and furious franchise has made the car a bit of a legend. This also happened before like the General Lee (69 Charger) and Bullet (67 Fast Back Mustang)
2) These cars may have been the dream of some kid who didn't have the money to get them when they were in high school, but have now become rich and want that car that was a dream back in the day. Of course now they can afford it.
3) The trend of the time. There was a time when people wanted the retro cars. Then for a while there people only saw MPG, so fuel economic cars held the value. Then comes the FR-S/BRZ and reawakens the import tuner movement which brings attention back to our cars.
4) Location Location Location. Cars like these in LA are always cheaper than in places like Oregon because there's more of them here. Funny enough the last two cars I sold went out of country. My MKIV Supra went to Switzerland and my '10 Camaro went to Japan.
the price on these will fluctuate a little. I bought mine a year ago for $13.5
01-18-14, 08:24 AM
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I'm pretty sure that iv read around 3 guides books on buying fd's and they all suggest buying the ones that already had some done to it. Specially reliability mods. And most car buyers that's willing to pay ln the upper 18k will do their homework first beforehand.
01-18-14, 08:39 AM
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yes maybe ONLY the reliability mods such as radiator, downpipe, silicone hoses. But how many rx7 owners stop there? LoL especially now that its 2014 and 255hp is certainly not enough to compete with many newer sports cars.
01-18-14, 11:12 AM
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Low mileage cars will still be worth some money but nearly 30k? I'm not seein that at all for most fds(99%). I don't know where you guys are seein fd's sell for nearly 30k but there's one local to me with under 20k miles on it and can't even get sold for 18k. While the supply of low mileage fds will decrease I will argue that demand for fds will decrease as well. There is only a small group of enthusiasts WILLING and ABLE to pay 30k for a low mi fd. Someone with 30k to spend has a lot of options...and I suspect more and more will pass on owning a 20 year old car with limited parts and service options available.
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01-18-14, 04:17 PM
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For me - I could care less about more horsepower. I bought a "stock" FD for a car that is light and fun to drive. I know I'm probably not in the majority, but a properly tuned and well maintained sequential twinturbo FD is all I need or want. You'll always find a car that's faster .. Never forget when I test drove my first FD. I was driving a 911 at the time...that damn RX-7 could do circles around my 911. The next phone call was to my wife telling her I had to have this car!
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Yeah FDs are still really fast and beat the majority of cars out there. You have to spend ~40k new to get a car of similar performance. I'm perfectly fine with my car stock and don't feel like I need any more power at all.
01-18-14, 04:39 PM
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My 320hp modified '93 FD cost $2,000 less than a new base Honda Civic.
I don't plan to sell it.
I don't plan to sell it.
01-18-14, 06:17 PM
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01-19-14, 08:44 PM
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Clean title, i'm the second owner, 11.1k miles on it, never seen rain, garage stored, i will put up an ad to gauge interest on it to entertain the though of selling it for the right price and i'll take some nice pictures for everyone
Also, just picked up some RZ brakes for it, going to get some mazdaspeed rotors for it and advox coilovers which i may or may not install.
Also, just picked up some RZ brakes for it, going to get some mazdaspeed rotors for it and advox coilovers which i may or may not install.
01-20-14, 11:14 AM
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Litmus test car on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mazda-RX-7-Coupe-1994-mazda-rx-7-chaste-white-manual-15-750-miles-complete-stock-/171216399762?forcerrptr=true&hash=item27dd4aed92&item=171216399762&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
01-20-14, 01:41 PM
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this dates back to even common series 2 GS FBs, where they have been attempted to be sold in the $15k+ range for somewhat clean 100k miles cars. the listings of course just fall from one page to the next. it has little relation compared the much more limited FD except it does always have to do with what someone will actually pay for the car. in that case it would be like someone asking $60k for a 50k mile FD(when you compare actual car value).
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