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iTrader: (1)

I actually failed my HC as well by 10 points in CA. And i replaced the o2 sensors, main cat and deleted precats, spark plugs and wires, fuel injector cleaner andddddd TADA! i pass everything with flying colors and improved the things i passed in the previous test!

Texas_Ace

iTrader: (18)

yep, more or less what i was able to do. Except i didn't replace the cat.

Spark pluga and retarding the timing did the most for me.

HAILERS

[QUOTE=Texas_Ace;8476938]LOL, you JUST saw that i didn't have that connected? I have said it just about every post in this thread. You are getting slow in your old age.

Yes, it is not connected with an elerical plug. The reason being this: I bought the car with it disconnected, i pulled the carpet back the other day to look at it and found it was disconnected, but when i tried to find a plug to plug into it, there is no a plug to be found!

So i looked in my parts car for a plu, and it also had the ATP disconnected in it as well with no plug in sight. And it is ripped all apart so i can see everything, no plug for it at all.

I have known all along this would lean me out a little, I just can't for the life of me find a connector to plug into it.*********************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************** ***********************

Any idea where it connects to?

Well it connects to the ECU. It's output wire goes to pin 2H and is green/yellow.

It's plug has FOUR wires. G/Y to pin 2H.........a Br/W wire that feeds ref voltage to the sensor via pin 2A on the ECU............a Black/White wire that is constant 12vdc.............and the ground wire either Br/B or pure Black.

Something is wrong. All series four EM harness have that plug. I suspect it's connected to ANOTHER THING in the car???????????? There's no rhym or reason for your two harnesses to not have one. Only a Dork would have cut that plug off.

And, yes, I don't have good reading comprehension, but I can pass emissions testing with one hand tied behind my back.

See page 50-25 and 50-26 of the 88 wiring manual for the ATP sensor and it's wires and plug.

That Br/W wire in the plug is spliced to all the other sensors who use 5vdc power from pin 2A, as shown in the wiring diagrams. Use care if you splice into 2A. But I just KNOW that four socket plug is there somewhere. Connected to radio or window plug??? Who knows. The Shadow........



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HAILERS

The branch that feeds the ATP breaks out of the EM harness about ten inches from the large black grommet in the bulkhead. It looks like the attached jpgs.

HAILERS

I notice that E85 is sold in Texas by KROGER. Do a Google search for KROGER E85 LOCATIONS and find one near you. I have NO idea of how much you should put in your tank, and I've read a normal car that is not made for Flex Fuels might not run normal, buy maybe you could try something like five gallons E85 and five low octane regular gasoline. I just made that mix up out of thin air.

It's just a thought.

Texas_Ace

iTrader: (18)

Hmmmm, for some reason stopped getting e-mails about this thread...

Yeah i don't know why i can't find the plug, i will look again though, that picture gives me an idea of where to look.

I doubt i will splice into the harness, i usually end up messing up splices to importants things like that.

any idea how rich the car would be running with it disconnected?

Interesting that E85 is sold in Texas, darn that it is mostly by the coast or the other side of DFW from me.

Next year i will keep that in mind though, i am just glad to have it done now. I can now get to work on other things like a 5 lug swap and getting it running "right"

HAILERS

Try this list:
VE85 is available at the following Texas Kroger locations:

-- 4038 Old Denton Road, Carrollton
-- 3939 Frankford at Midway, Dallas
-- 7505 North MacArthur Boulevard, Irving
-- 9135 Grapevine Highway, North Richland Hills
-- 3001 Matlock Road, Mansfield
-- 1004 South Crowley Road, Crowley
-- 9700 Coit Road, Plano
-- 5190 Highway 78, Sachse
-- 1801 South Voss Road, Houston
-- 1705 Fry Road & Park Row, Katy
-- 8323 Broadway, Pearland
-- 2222 I-45 North, Conroe
-- 17455 Spring Cypress, Cypress
-- 12434 Tomball Parkway, Houston
-- 3820 Atascocita Road, Humble
-- 8500 Highway 6 North, Houston
-- 11565 State Highway 6 South
-- 6616 Highway 1488, Magnolia
-- 2750 East League City Parkway, League City
-- 6060 FM 2920 at Kuykendahl, Spring

I was surprised to find one in Mansfield. There's also the one in North Richland Hills and way over near dallas, one in Plano.

I probably could just disconnect the ATP from my car and watch the AFR. Might do that tomorrow.

Texas_Ace

iTrader: (18)

don't do it just for me, but if you are curious i won't stop you :-) lol

As soon as it cools down some i am going to get out there and try to find that plug (supposed to cool down later this week some, at least below 100)

Rotary Noob

Retard it to much though, if they test for timing, and you fail.

There is a factory spec, and it does have to be there...in california at least. Good job on passing...I might check my timing, and lower it down a touch...I failed at 15 too.

Texas_Ace

iTrader: (18)

That must only be in CA, here is TX they could care less what your timing is, heck i was messing with the timing in front of the test guys after i drove up.

I drove it there and away with normal timing, just changed it for the test.