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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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Will this work T2 motor w/ NA hood->

Not as cut and dry as the title, I was wondering if the Aluminum N/A hood is ok to use TEMPORARILY until the FMIC stuff comes in. Just a quick Q..... Like a trip to the Exhaust shop, around town and back home...
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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Just drive without a hood?
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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That is against the law here.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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That is against the law here.
You sure about that? A guy at work drove for 4 weeks without a hood on his 80's camaro through morristown, not once was he pulled over or ticketed. Just go at night and drop it off, or if its a short trip it shouldnt hurt to do so in teh daylight hours.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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If you do that, I wouldn't boost it and the tmic might not make the clearance under the hood.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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If you do that, I wouldn't boost it and the tmic might not make the clearance under the hood.
That is what i was afraid of.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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clearance is fine, i know that because my car is a NA and i have the TII swap with the stock TMIC but i dunno about driving around with that small amount of airflow to the intercooler. peace -mike
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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Yea, seriously, without airflow to the TMIC I would seriously not do any boosting. No boosting, and its absolutley fine. Just disconnect the wastegate arm and have it sort of wired open. Your car will be slow, but it will defenitly still be alive when you get the proper hood.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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I drove my fresh vert T2 swap home from Rotary Ressurection in Morristown to Chicago with an NA hood over the TMIC with no problem(700+ miles). I've driven it around to and from work a couple times with no issues either. I will switch to a FMIC setup soon though.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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Driving it without a hood is still bad. Driving with an NA hood is worse. But, like the others said, as long as your not boosting, there shouldnt be a problem.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 11:22 PM
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Do any of you even know WHY its a "bad idea" to drive with the na hood? I tend to think a lot of you are just parrots... jesus.
You can drive around with the NA hood, it wont hurt anything.

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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 11:53 PM
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^ hey...no name calling...

As far as i'm concerned, I wouldn't trust the clearance between the TMIC and the N/A hood. I dunno...it might work...

How long before you install the FMIC?
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SideWindeRx7
Do any of you even know WHY its a "bad idea" to drive with the na hood? I tend to think a lot of you are just parrots... jesus.
You can drive around with the NA hood, it wont hurt anything.
If you read my post correctly. I clearly stated that there isn't a problem with using an NA hood, AS LONG AS YOUR NOT BOOSTING.

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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SideWindeRx7
Do any of you even know WHY its a "bad idea" to drive with the na hood? I tend to think a lot of you are just parrots... jesus.
You can drive around with the NA hood, it wont hurt anything.
I never said you couldn't. I simply stated that no hood would likely be the better choice. That N/A hood right on top of (or hitting) the TII I/C is going to run a detonation fearing engine awfully hot. Probably be fine, but in the world of the rotary you don't want to leave much to chance.

....Polly want a cracker...

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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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The stock intercooler is about as efficient as a a fat person on a treamill 2 times a week. Sure it will help you out, but you are aint gonna get any better looking.
What I'm saying is that the stock IC doesnt do a great job cooling the air, especially once you get up to speed. Air just does not flow through the top mount very well. So running with a closed up hood wont make much of a difference, even if youre boosting. I'm sure you might notice a little lack in power after some long driving, but overall if youre just using it to get around, it wont hurt anything. Shoot, old school turbo charged vehicles never even used intercoolers, some dont today! Most turbocharged boat engines dont use intercoolers either. *shrug* sorry about the name calling earlier, I had just got done reading the Gen D section and hated everyone on this board... but im better now
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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running stock boost?
it will be fine
feel free to boost it if you like

10 psi? maybe not...

stock boost? IT IS FINE
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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Trevor, I have been rockin the NA hood on my TII swap since I completed it in September. It clears fine, no issues.
And don't fear boosting, its so cold here right now that it shouldn't be too bad.

600 miles on the build bitches.
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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i drove like that for a few months. it boosted 5 psi got a t2 hood and got 1psi.
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SideWindeRx7
The stock intercooler is about as efficient as a a fat person on a treamill 2 times a week. Sure it will help you out, but you are aint gonna get any better looking.
What I'm saying is that the stock IC doesnt do a great job cooling the air, especially once you get up to speed. Air just does not flow through the top mount very well. So running with a closed up hood wont make much of a difference, even if youre boosting. I'm sure you might notice a little lack in power after some long driving, but overall if youre just using it to get around, it wont hurt anything. Shoot, old school turbo charged vehicles never even used intercoolers, some dont today! Most turbocharged boat engines dont use intercoolers either. *shrug* sorry about the name calling earlier, I had just got done reading the Gen D section and hated everyone on this board... but im better now
Most boats run water cooling for their airflow on turbocharged designs. Most supercharged boats use air/water loop intercoolers. I know, I've helped design some.

You block out your I/C and measure air temperature differences. With no air flow, and nowhere to expel the heat into cooler ambient air, you're going to heat up the air more with the hood on, then if you had no intercooler at all.

I'm right on this one man, trust me.

Don't worry about the name calling, I think you're all rotards anyway. LOL, J/K.
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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just make a tube that goes from the turbo to the intake and take out the intercooler...that way you wont have clearance issues. then...dont boost...and drive slow...some older cars had turbos without intercoolers...car wont be very happy with you if you boost though
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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You could just cut a hole in your hood.
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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I'd rather not cut up a perfectly good N/A Aluminum hood... But I do Have like 20 steel ones laying around.....
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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I'd rather not cut up a perfectly good N/A Aluminum hood... But I do Have like 20 steel ones laying around.....
Well there you go, cut up a steel one. I'll be cutting up an aluminum one this spring i think.
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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a Z31 300zx turbo had no intercooler and it ran about 5psi... it wouldn't be a good idea to boost, but I don't think it's gonna blow it up if you're at stock boost levels
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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It will work just fine, as long as you're not making repeated high-boost runs. There are no clearance issues, and intake temps don't get too high if you don't go nuts with the boost.
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