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Once I found my method to pre-mixing. i.e. made a container for everything. got a small funnel, measuring tube. It wasn't that bad. Most times I don't spil a drop on my hands. or anywhere else.
On a side note, I'm running the mechanical metering pump with only the housing injectors. I chose only the housing injectors, because the manifold ones, only get your intake runners and ports dirty as hell. In case I ever run out of Pre-mix, I have the OMP to get me somewhere that does. Oh and my lines cost me $12 a piece. Stainless steel braid from local hydraulics shop, in Daytona Beach. |
I pre-mix first then I pump gas. This way I feel I have the best shot at a good even mixture.
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I premix as well.. the only part that sucks about the premix is buying the premix. and its only a few dollars. so it aint that bad. and the other part that sucks. is some gasstations around me dont carry it so if im out i have to find a station who carrys 2cycle oil then fill up..
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I've been premixing for about 4 years now and I've never had a problem with anything clogging up or breaking because of it. I use 1 ounce of 2cycle to 1 gallon of gas. Doesn't take that much time at all. I prefill little bottles and I have them ready whenever I need them.
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I prefill little bottles and I have them ready whenever I need them. |
Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Overall I'd say that it's a raging pain in the ass. It adds an extra step to an already annoying process (filling up)
costs more (two stroke oil is about $4 a quart here) is messy (you WILL get oil on you, and you WILL smell like fuel) and in my opinion is wholly unnecessary if you have a working metering oil system. And there's the stupid questions asked by onlookers. |
Originally Posted by spoolnblue
fuck it, my car runs fine, i run 1 oz. to the gallon. thought it would be helpful. premixin is a pain, but if thats the way u wanna go, fuck it. L8r asses
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Originally Posted by spoolnblue
fuck it, my car runs fine, i run 1 oz. to the gallon. thought it would be helpful. premixin is a pain, but if thats the way u wanna go, fuck it. L8r asses
You aren't adding enough premix to make her smoke. Unless you're talking about revving the motor past redline - premix or not, you're going to get smoke. As for smelly/messy, keep the bottle clean (most pumps have paper towels) and PUT THE GODDAMN CAP BACK ON TIGHTLY. IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO DO. To everyone: Why do the complaints about premixing revolve around convenience? How can you be motivated enough to remove and block-off the omp system (not exactly an easy, one-step task) and then up throw up your hands at the prospect of keeping an extra 16oz or 32oz fluid container in the back and not spilling it when you use it? I don't get you people... :scratch: |
i swear by pre-mixing,having firsthand experience with uneven apex seal wear and carbonizing:mad: .My car doesn't smell or smoke and i have full open exhaust.I can run synthetic oil with no worries,and it's only messy if your not doing it right! see my previous thread on the 2 stroke pump!! https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/tip-pre-mixers-606704/
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I've been premixing religiously for 6 or 7 years now. Having seen the results personally inside the engine, I will never switch back to OMP lubrication.
And to the guys who can put premix into their car without splling oil/gas on their hands... do you guys got bricks for hands, or what? I'd hate to be standing next to you at a bar... you must get just drenched in beer. Use a small funnel, pour in the premix, cap the oil. No mess there. Pour a little gas from the nozzle through the funnel, take out funnel, shove fresh paper towel into funnel and wipe it out. Throw out paper towel. No mess there. Fill up car. No mess there. I cannot fathom where the constant problem lies? |
idk... i just... pour, i never had trouble no spill no mess... if a DROP gets on my car i just... wash it off with the window cleaner thing..... i premix about just over 1/2 oz per gallon.... sees 7k occasionally until something in my clutch went... no noticable problems so far, and the smell is not that bad at that ratio... when I had 1 oz to gallon, wow.. i feel so bad for my girlfriend lol.
I am use to it, after all its daily driven and i do work at a shop. |
And let me add one thing.
I have a s4 turbo ii. I have had the OMP control rod that is connected to the throttlebody get stuck on me. I was doing a 1 > 2 shift WOT and it looped over itself and got stuck WOT when I shifted. So this is another reason. My new setup will have a standalone w/ rev limiter and my engine will be built for about 1000rpm's higher than i can even make power so I'm kinda safe on that one. But it still sucked. Had to tear off my intercooler and diagnose the problem myself and then fixed it. Took about an hour and a half between making phone calls to bitch about my problem to people and asking for someone to come out and help me and fixing the shit. All this in the hot assed phoenix sun in some gay assed mall parking lot w/ the hood open pouring out rotary heat into my face. Fun |
omp sucks
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Originally Posted by scathcart
And to the guys who can put premix into their car without splling oil/gas on their hands... do you guys got bricks for hands, or what? I'd hate to be standing next to you at a bar
Originally Posted by Node
And let me add one thing.
I have a s4 turbo ii. I have had the OMP control rod that is connected to the throttlebody get stuck on me. I was doing a 1 > 2 shift WOT and it looped over itself and got stuck WOT when I shifted. So this is another reason. My new setup will have a standalone w/ rev limiter and my engine will be built for about 1000rpm's higher than i can even make power so I'm kinda safe on that one. But it still sucked. Had to tear off my intercooler and diagnose the problem myself and then fixed it. Took about an hour and a half between making phone calls to bitch about my problem to people and asking for someone to come out and help me and fixing the shit. All this in the hot assed phoenix sun in some gay assed mall parking lot w/ the hood open pouring out rotary heat into my face. Fun :wink: |
omp was developed for customers comforts i think. they dont say here is ur new car , keys and dont forget here is 2 cycle oil.
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ok so honestly here how many people just add the oil from the bottl ehten fill and how mnany pre mix a bottle before hand pour it in the fill?
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I just add from the bottle..
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This is exactly what I use.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg Going on 3 years now. Go buy 4 or 5 of these first. Then once your out save the bottle and buy the big gallon version from then on. Use thebig gallon one to fill up the smaller bottle to the 30ounce mark. If your like me. You refuel around 10-12 gallons everytime so you know exactly how much to pour in from the 30ounce bottle.... 1 ounce to 1 gallon is pretty damn easy. These bottles are sturdy and have opaque sides to see the measurement. They also pour easy. I rarely spill them. I also wipe the excess off the top of the bottle with the stations supplied towels. It is second nature to me. It is in no way a hassle. As long as I have some that is(running out in bfe sucks). |
Originally Posted by Digi7ech
As long as I have some that is(running out in bfe sucks).
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im not pre mixing yet but heres a great idea. take the bottles for fuel injector cleaner like 20oz size and pre fill them at home with the amount you fill up most often with and just carry them with you
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I am real lazy. I buy pettit racing Protek-R and just pour in the the 4oz bottle before fill up. Just playing safe with a 140,000 mile on my 91N/A. Pricey though $47.00 with shipping for 24 bottles.
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I am reading this in preperation to start using premix in my 88 Vert, I am unclear on something. Do you just dump a bottle of oil in the gas tank before pumping your gas (following the 1oz oil to 1 gal gas rule) or am I missing the process entirely?
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Originally Posted by MaxJenius211
I am reading this in preperation to start using premix in my 88 Vert, I am unclear on something. Do you just dump a bottle of oil in the gas tank before pumping your gas (following the 1oz oil to 1 gal gas rule) or am I missing the process entirely?
-Max |
All the gas stations around me have the paper cone filters by the pump, I just grab a few for the times I'm out of town and throw them away when done. No muss, no fuss.
I also use one ounce per every two gallons of gas, seems like everyone uses more though. |
anyone know where i can get the mod for the block off plate so i can take it all off
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