Ryde _Or_Die

I am going to have someone rebuild my engine and he told me to get the seals I want. Where can I get a good kit or individually if cheaper? I want good products so keep that in mind. Thanks.

Ryde _Or_Die

Oh and if there are any different seals(FD corner seals?) I should use, let me know too. Thanks.

Dvst8

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rotaryaviation has a new set of apex seals+springs. They are cheap right now.. 138 for all 6.
http://www.rotaryaviation.com/apex_seals.htm

I ordered my kit from them. Great people and think they have the lowest prices.

1adzam

I got mine from Atkins. The two piece apex seals were easy to install. Because they are a "little" softer than OEM, they wear in better. My rebuild is producing 100psi of compression on both rotors so they obviously work. www.atkinsrotary.com

The price they gave me on a full rebuild kit was much better than the advertised price on their website by the way!

voodooracing

you can get all these componenets from Racing Beat, Mazdaspeed (aka m comp), Mazdatrix, and all those mentioned in other replies.

Ryde _Or_Die

What springs are included in their kit? It says 12 springs, so what else would I need exactly? Oil seals? Water seals? Anything else? Thanks for the help.

Mr. Gadget

Your first post mention your mechainic spec'ing the parts needed. I would follow his instructions. However, i do have one question, did he make the list before he took apart the motor or after? If before, you might buy too much. Basics include o'ring kit and install gasket kit. I personally replace all springs, Apex seals and corner seals. I inspect and measure oil control rings and side seals. If one is bad and others are marginal I replace all.

Hope this helps

Ryde _Or_Die

Well replaces everything when he does rebuilds(all seals and everything he said) so thats what I plan on getting. Is there anything that doesn't need replacing usually besides housings?

ERAUMAZDA

double mint double mint gum

ERAUMAZDA

remember bud. you live in florida so you have to add 7% to your total if you order from rotartaviation.

Mr. Gadget

Then buy the rotaryavation master kit.

Liquid Anarchy

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If you don't need Seals... get the Mazdatrix Kit (~$160)
If you do... get the Mazdatrix Kit, and Rotary Avation Apex's :-P

Ryde _Or_Die

What Mazdatrix kit do you mean $160? If I could get everything I need with a kit from Mazdatrix and the Rotary Aviation, that would save me some money.

Liquid Anarchy

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http://www.mazdatrix.com/b2.htm

All non-hard parts (minus front and rear main seals, pilot bearing, and seal) for $160.

If you replace the apex's, Rotary Avation seems to have the best deal.
If you replace your Rotor bearings, use FD Bearings.
I'd probably E-Mail Rotary Avation about everything else (Side/Corner seals, etc)

Dvst8

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From an old post..(didnt want to type it out)

You can reuse corner seals, side seals, and ALL teh springs, if you feel so inclined. Apex seals and oil seals are a must. You can reuse the metal oil carrier ring, but must replace the rubber o-ring inside. You must also replace the rubber corner seal plugs.

IT is cheap enough you should go ahead with FD corner seal springs and new side seal springs, Oil seal springs arent a bad idea either, but theyre usually reuseable. Apex seal springs do not wear down from new, in my measurements of over 20 core motors.

Rotor and main bearings are always ok to reuse unless theyre showing brass. All internal o-rings MUST be replaced...the external gaskets are sometimes reuseable, depending on how you are at removing manifolds. I always get teh appropriate gasket kit anyway, which comes with all teh o-rings AND gaskets for the entire engine. For a t2 it will run around $250-300. Apex seals $225-250, CS plugs $20, oil seals $100, oil pellet(e-shaft) $15, FD corner springs $30, sideseal springs $30. Prices are approximate depending on where you buy from. Atkins offers very good pricing and good products, I use those in my rebuilds."

heres the link for it
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...usable+housing

Dvst8

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So what was the price they gave you?

Ryde _Or_Die

So standard rebuild kits don't include water seals?

Dvst8

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the kits should come with the water seals. from rotaryaviation or atkins.

Ryde _Or_Die

http://rotaryaviation.com/overhaul_kits.htm

Are they included in the master kits?

KNONFS

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Yes they are.

My88Se

iTrader: (10)

Yes. I just bought mine from them a few weeks ago. It comes with everything, even the fd corner seal springs. The only thing that it did not come with that I can think of were the oil seal springs. Aside from those everything was included.

13B2QuIcKNy

Yo Ryde if this helps u out
i just finished the break in process of my engine
which means i just rebuilt it a month ago
i live in kissimee by the way
heres the total price spent on materials

atkins 2 piece apex seals
$280
complete gasket kit from fel-pro with every seal
was $ 150 because i ordered a 12a... it doesnt make a difference when it comes to internal seals
intake and exhaust manifold gaskets seperatly cuz 12a doesnt match the 6 port intake and the exhaust ports are different so that was an extra $25
93 corner seal springs- $30
thermal pellet- $15
Rotor and Stationary Bearing- $50 bucks all 4
housings and rotors were in very good shape.the side seals/springs and corner seals were very good shape. my car had 140,982 miles when we took the engine apart so if u add up everything it's 550- not that bad


280+150+25+30+15+50=550

91 c5 vette red painted Mazda RX7 FC3S
13b rebuilt (painted red n silver) atkins 2 piece apex seals, 13b-rew corner seal springs
mild street port, TurboII 550cc secondaries
intake manifolds ported, cold and hot start removed
tb mod, thermal pellet, slighty ported oil injectors
5 and 6 ports gone , acv blocked off
4 puck bronze clutch, stock pressure plate n throw out bearing
emissions, many many vacuum lines and p/s gone
Air Fuel and Oil pressure autometer white face gauges on pillar
racing beat 2-1 header-midpipe-custom 2.5 inch pipe-apexi N1 muffler
215/45/17 Racing Hart C2 evo's wrapped on kuhmo ecsta 712's

Ryde _Or_Die

Ok, I can get the Apex seals/springs from Rotary Aviation for $138 plus shipping so I could cut that in half. Where did you get the FD corner seals/thermal pellet/rotor and stationary bearing? I want to put new side seals and springs in too though.

ERAUMAZDA

if you plan on running that motor for a couple thousand miles buy oil control rings. They will poo poo eventually.

Ryde _Or_Die

So those are included in what 13B2QuIcKNy posted? How much are those separate?