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Old 11-22-06, 12:12 PM
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whats the best stock T2 and why?

i expect the answer is 10th AE .... but is it ?
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i i think it's the S5 turbo it was a little lighter and had more power
Old 11-22-06, 12:32 PM
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The s5 was lighter? That's news to me.

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Originally Posted by MtnRacer
The s5 was lighter? That's news to me.

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Probably because it's wrong.
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well its a little lighter the 10AE
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10AE = 2900 lbs
S5 TII = 2987 lbs
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Would you consider a stock Infini stock?
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S4 TII 10th AE = 2900 lbs

S5 TII= 2987 lbs

Taken from Icemark's website

http://www.mazdamark.com/about_the_s5_fc.htm
http://www.mazdamark.com/about_the_fc.htm

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Old 11-22-06, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Goofy
Would you consider a stock Infini stock?
Stock Infini stock? That answers itself, doesn't it?

It had the most horsepower out of the bunch.
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Stock Infini stock? That answers itself, doesn't it?

It had the most horsepower out of the bunch.
Well, since it was a limited production run that was specifically designed to be more of a racer than a normal car, using a free-er flowing exhaust and upgraded ecu. Plus I thought if that was allowed it'd be a no-brainer.
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Infini it is then.
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s5 had the better motor, then Ifini up it one better.
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not to sound like an idiot here but what exactly is an ifini?
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Originally Posted by DASUPACAT1
s5 had the better motor, then Ifini up it one better.
The s5 and Ifini motors were the exact same..no difference. The only reason the Ifini had slightly more hp was due to a much better free flowing exhaust and tampered ecu...other then that...same motor.
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Best TII?

One without a sunroof, steel hood, and power steering.

That's what I'de sport!
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as far as performance and engineering goes... its a trade off

the 10AE is heavier than a standard S4 T2 right? or are they the same? mechanically, id prefer the S4 due to the clutch LSD and weight savings over the S5...

but, id BUY an S5 T2 because the VLSD isnt big enough of an issue for me to shun the car. plus, the S5 styling updates Pwns the S4/AE's face. the Porsce 944 tail lights and MK3 supra-style sawblades do nothing for me.
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Originally Posted by flubyux2
as far as performance and engineering goes... its a trade off

the 10AE is heavier than a standard S4 T2 right? or are they the same? mechanically, id prefer the S4 due to the clutch LSD and weight savings over the S5...

but, id BUY an S5 T2 because the VLSD isnt big enough of an issue for me to shun the car. plus, the S5 styling updates Pwns the S4/AE's face. the Porsce 944 tail lights and MK3 supra-style sawblades do nothing for me.
The 10AE's are a bit heavier. It's not a huge amount. ~50lbs or something.
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the best stock tii is...

a running one
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oooh, i know! Halsmersport GTO edition!
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Originally Posted by alexdimen
oooh, i know! Halsmersport GTO edition!
OOOooh, Touche'! thats the only FC thats more rare than mine
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first of all, why would you want a steel hood, it's heavier.

second of all, the only reason the 10th ae is heavier is due to the headlight sprayers.

third of all, the s5 interior may be better looking, but is more cheaply made.

fourth of all, the s4 tails are ugly on any car other than a 10th ae due to the fact that the ae's were paint matched and not ugly mismatched gray.

fifth of all, is this limited to the us productions? because if so wouldn't the infini be excluded.
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sorry, but the S4 tail lights are dated as all get-out... even if they do have a body-colored mask. the S5 tail lights are designed w/ styling cues that toyota capitalized on and now everyone wishes they had on their shitboxes (Altezza's) you dont see people bolting on aftermarket tail lights based on S4 styling, do you?
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The s4 tails are the worst part of the s4. The 10ae tails are even worse than the normal s4's.
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Originally Posted by RedFox
first of all, why would you want a steel hood, it's heavier.

second of all, the only reason the 10th ae is heavier is due to the headlight sprayers.

third of all, the s5 interior may be better looking, but is more cheaply made.

fourth of all, the s4 tails are ugly on any car other than a 10th ae due to the fact that the ae's were paint matched and not ugly mismatched gray.

fifth of all, is this limited to the us productions? because if so wouldn't the infini be excluded.
^^The rims were also a bit heavier... and it had pretty much every option available. I know i have one. And 13bpower i think you would be heavily outnumbered on that opinion.
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well, possibly... the S4's dont have the greatest tail lights by any stretch of the imagination. aside from that, the fact that they have a body-colored mask is an improvment over the plain black plastic.... but that doesnt make them great tails. you cant polish a turd when it comes to those tails.
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