2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

WHAT is this? Please help.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-09-14, 08:04 PM
  #1  
Wheel Revolutionist!

Thread Starter
 
Eriks85Rx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 1,018
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Exclamation WHAT is this? Please help.

So I am trying to help my friend get his Turbo II back on the road but, we have run into a problem. In the picture I have circled what is called a switching valve that appears to operate off of a vacuum (which I am assuming comes from the intake manifold). We have removed all the emissions related equipment and installed the appropriate block off plates.

Does that metal line bolt onto the valve with a banjo bolt?
What does that valve do?
Where does that metal line go to?
Old 11-09-14, 09:09 PM
  #2  
roTAR needz fundZ

iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Freeland, MI
Posts: 2,614
Likes: 0
Received 31 Likes on 31 Posts
Originally Posted by Eriks85Rx7
So I am trying to help my friend get his Turbo II back on the road but, we have run into a problem. In the picture I have circled what is called a switching valve that appears to operate off of a vacuum (which I am assuming comes from the intake manifold). We have removed all the emissions related equipment and installed the appropriate block off plates.

Does that metal line bolt onto the valve with a banjo bolt?
What does that valve do?
Where does that metal line go to?
My T2 knowledge is limited, but i believe that is the vacuum line for the wastegate, which is very important

Edit: i take that back, a vacuum line wouldn't have a banjo style bolt, next guesstimate is the oil feed
Old 11-09-14, 09:35 PM
  #3  
Wheel Revolutionist!

Thread Starter
 
Eriks85Rx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 1,018
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by lduley
My T2 knowledge is limited, but i believe that is the vacuum line for the wastegate, which is very important

Edit: i take that back, a vacuum line wouldn't have a banjo style bolt, next guesstimate is the oil feed
I think your first guess is more accurate. I know it is not the oil feed line that goes into the actual turbo assembly. Why would mazda use a metal line as a vacuum line for the wastegate? Am I missing something?

Old 11-09-14, 10:08 PM
  #4  
Retired Moderator, RIP

iTrader: (142)
 
misterstyx69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Smiths Falls.(near Ottawa!.Mapquest IT!)
Posts: 25,581
Likes: 0
Received 131 Likes on 114 Posts
twin scroll actuator.S4 TII's had them.
Old 11-09-14, 10:23 PM
  #5  
whats going on?

iTrader: (1)
 
SirCygnus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: atlanta ga
Posts: 4,929
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Originally Posted by misterstyx69
twin scroll actuator.S4 TII's had them.
bingo.
Old 11-10-14, 05:52 AM
  #6  
Wheel Revolutionist!

Thread Starter
 
Eriks85Rx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 1,018
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Thanks guys,

Where can this bolt be bought that secures the metal line to the actuator? Does anyone have a part number? Can someone confirm it is a banjo bolt?

Where does this metal tie into on the intake side? Can it be any vacuum port?
Old 11-10-14, 04:36 PM
  #7  
Rotary Enthusiast

iTrader: (1)
 
barkz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: New Hampsha
Posts: 1,261
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by Eriks85Rx7
Thanks guys,

Where can this bolt be bought that secures the metal line to the actuator? Does anyone have a part number? Can someone confirm it is a banjo bolt?

Where does this metal tie into on the intake side? Can it be any vacuum port?
twin scroll solenoid in the emissions rack under oil filler neck. cant remember off the top of my head which one. and yes banjo bolt.
Old 11-12-14, 10:29 PM
  #8  
Boostin
iTrader: (1)
 
el omar88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: West Pasco Washington
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
you said you removed all the emissions stuff so did you do the rats nest delete you would have to leave one of the solenoids that controls the twin scroll actuator (the one you circled) it doesn't just go to a intake vacuum line iirc or else it will take the turbo longer to spool at lower rpms if its left off
Old 11-13-14, 07:17 AM
  #9  
CC of L-Squared Shots

 
w0ppe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Posts: 644
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The twin scroll is more performance oriented than it is for reducing co or emissions. I would rather keep it to give you quicker pick up in the turbo than without it. It's your car though, you may like to just have the turbo on full at all times.
Old 04-16-15, 05:23 PM
  #10  
Junior Member
 
DerpyToast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: CNJ
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Anyone know what size the bolt is? Mine broke and in the process of trying to get the engine back in and running misplaced the broken bolt. Yes i've searched and yes i've been doing alot of swearing every time a thread has info about the twin scroll actuator w/o the bolt size. Grrrr!
Old 04-16-15, 05:32 PM
  #11  
Junior Member
 
DerpyToast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: CNJ
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Kept searching and found the size in a fore sale thread of all places. M8 x 1.25 banjo bolt. Used on some small bikes too, best bet is ebay or a uk supplier on amazon.
Cheers
Old 04-16-15, 09:42 PM
  #12  
Senior Member

iTrader: (4)
 
pzr2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Arizona
Posts: 442
Received 66 Likes on 42 Posts
Ditto on the M8x1.25. I think Mazda used similar bolts on the OMP at the pump, but don't quote me on that. It's probably a little too long for the twin-scroll actuator. If you need to replace it, go with Amazon, unless you're a proficient junkyard scavenger. Weirdly enough, McMaster-Carr, Belmetric, Grainger, Copper State, O'Reillys, Autozone, NAPA, and Ace Hardware all don't have M8x1.25 banjo bolts. First time I've found a bolt that's stumped all of them.

Also, don't forget your crush washers. I used thread sealant for good measure, although it isn't a big deal.

For future reference on the plumbing: the metal line tucks against the insulator, runs around the back of the turbo under the downpipe/precat and ends by the EGR. It joins the rest of the rats nest there, where it follows the main ribbon around the back of the engine, behind the lift bracket, and plumbs into the solenoid, which is the one at the furthest end to the front of the engine. I did a rough mark up of an FSM diagram, though it's too grainy for me to trace back to the solenoid. Actuator marked in red, hard line marked in blue, solenoid marked in green.

Name:  twinscrollactuator_zps0u45q5un.jpg
Views: 17
Size:  210.6 KB

I'll be tearing the turbo out of my car this weekend (again) so I can verify the exact length of the banjo bolt and what length will fit.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Smokeyfb33
Old School and Other Rotary
10
10-01-15 12:10 PM
pfsantos
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
1
09-30-15 01:29 PM
baix2
Power FC Forum
1
09-28-15 09:40 AM



Quick Reply: WHAT is this? Please help.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:53 AM.