i have an 87 na that i think is flooded i tried to push start it and it didnt work. how fast to u have to be going to make this work?

 

you need to be going fairly fast... not like 30mph or anything but hills are nice for this purpose. To my knowledge (which isn't that expansive), if done correctly, there is no reason why the car shouldn't start if everything is fine. does it turn over? do you have spark?It doesn't sound like the fuel system as you said that you thought it was flooded, but you may wanna check voltage to the fuel pump etc.

 

Unless the engine can't turn over on it's own (i.e. flat battery), push starting is the last thing you try, after all the usual unflodding methods. Have you done those?

 

i have done all deflooding nothing is working everytime i pull plugs out they are soaked i bought new ngk and clean them everytime i pull them out

 

Deflood with EGI fuse out and gas pedal fully depressed. Try squirting oil in leading spark plug holes.

 

did the oil and the fuse my comp is 120 so i heard the oil might do more harm than good since i read the oil is just to build some comp

 

The oil is to replace the oil film washed away by the excess fuel. Without that it's very hard to build enough compression to start. It will not do any harm.

Are you sure you have spark?

 

i took a plug out and pluged it into each plug wire set it on some metal cranked it over and seen spark from each plug wire

 

Is that compression number recent? Are you sure you still have good compression? If you crank the engine with the leading plug removed (do one rotor at a time) do you hear even compression sounds?

 

yes the comp was taken yesterday and i had a comp gage with the button held down watching for even bounces of the needle of at least 35 psi and then i let go of the button and see what it could build to and i got 120

 

Have you checked your electricity? No Spark?

 

i got spark

 

You're in Bakersfield... That explains everything! It's got Valley Fever! (The only way it would get better/worse is if you lived in Oildale: The Gateway to Bakersfield)

You can turn the engine over right? Does it at least try to start? Might be a clogged exhaust.

 

thats funny u know about valley fever lol. no it does not even try to start just turns over

 

my a/c compressor frooze, kept the engine from spinning fast enough, make sure all pully's are working properly

 

Mmmm, if after you've checked:
Fuel, Air, Spark, check your exhaust. I believe I remember some one posting on here about their cats being so clogged that it wouldn't start.

 

how would i go about that

 

drop your exhaust/remove your cats from just before the headers (between the headers and precats). Crank it see if it starts. It will be loud, and illegal if you drive it on the streets like that.

 

Fiddle with the accelerator while starting...

If you got enough battery charge, and add some air to the mixture, you can deflood your engine.

It takes a bit of finesse, though.

 

now would this be worth doing if its still flooded

 

You never "fiddle" with the throttle while trying to unflood, you'll only make things worse. You hold it fully open, nothing else.

 

mine did this, had spark, gas, and cleaned it out for hours. had an extra ecu and slapped it in and it worked. lol. it seems like it wouldnt happen but it has. and it did start for a minute with a bad ecu. but only once.

 

I've got my car running 4-5 times by fiddling with the accelerator. It's like coaxing the engine back to life.

Using the S5 deflood feature never seems to have much effect for me.

 

Doing that will never "coax" the engine into doing anything. Maximum airflow and zero fuel is by far the best way to unflood an engine, and massively overwhelming experience proves that. Most likely your engine just wasn't very flooded.

Can you explain how moving the accelerator could do anything positive?

 

When I had to deal with bad flooding issues with my old engine and with customers cars, I always disconnected to the fuel pump at its electrical connector, I think there is actually a fuse but im usually back there doing something anyways, and I was always able to get the engine running with the foot firmly planted on throttle to the floor.