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What handles better: 2nd Gen or 1st Gen GSL-SE?

Old Jan 21, 2002 | 10:10 PM
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What handles better: 2nd Gen or 1st Gen GSL-SE?

Can anyone answer this question: What handles better: 2nd Gen or the 1st Gen GSL-SE? The SE has the better rear suspnsion, and weighs quite a bit less than the 2nd gen. I think the center-of-gravity is lower too.

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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 10:19 PM
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Where, oh WHERE did you hear that the first-gen has a "better rear suspension"? A four-point with panhard rod is better than a fully-independent with passive rear steer? Nope.

Not to mention that the 2nd-gen has a better weight distribution, better front suspension, better steering geometry, and better brakes The first-gen may be lighter, but not by much, and the 2nd-gen suspension is about as far ahead of the 1st as the 3rd is ahead of the 2nd...

Do some reasearch, my man.

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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 10:21 PM
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They both handle good, so who gives a damn!
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by No7Yet
Where, oh WHERE did you hear that the first-gen has a "better rear suspension"? ....Do some reasearch, my man.

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My bad -- the SE has the better suspension IN COMPARISON TO THE STANDARD 1st GEN RX-7!
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 10:39 PM
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The only advantages the FB has over any FC is the live axle on flat surfaces, such as airport tracks and the weight.

On any other course even the basic FC, with the rack and pinion, IRS, additional power, etc is a better choice.

If the SA/FB were equal or better than the FC you would see them rated in the same race classes, rather than the SA/FB down on the scale a class or two (depending on sanactioning body).
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 10:48 PM
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FC is in ITS, FB is in ITB
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 11:04 PM
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1st gen are a lot lighter!!
They have more body roll though, and respond a little slower.
1st gen- Holy oversteer batman!!!!
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Old Jan 22, 2002 | 12:13 AM
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Originally posted by tmak26b
FC is in ITS, FB is in ITB
Actually unless they changed it the GSL-SE was in ITS because of the 13B engine.The 2nd. gen .was still the better choice due to better brakes and suspension.
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Old Jan 22, 2002 | 10:12 AM
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And the non 13B first gens are in ITA or Pro/Spec 7

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Old Jan 22, 2002 | 12:01 PM
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Your automatically going to get biased opinions based on the fact you posted in the 2nd gen section.
I've owned both. The FC is more stable at speed and probably can hug the corners a little faster, but the FC has about 10x better feel and predictability (DTSS sucks)
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Old Jan 22, 2002 | 12:04 PM
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I meant FB has about 10x better feel.
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Old Jan 22, 2002 | 12:12 PM
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Develope your driving skills and both cars will be almost equal in the handling department. If your going to autocross then decide what class you want to run in. If you pick CSP go with the 1st gen. Lighter weight is the way to go. If you are going to keep it on the street(no street racing, thats just plain stupid) go for the 2nd gen. Its easier to drive at the limit. The DTSS can be nerve racking so mine is disabled but I still overall prefer the 2nd gen car. My sig says it all.
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Old Jan 22, 2002 | 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by FPrep2ndGenRX7
If you pick CSP go with the 1st gen
Yeah, a first gen Miata, CRX or MR2

Actually, I have seen a competative CSP 1st gen, but to get it there, it was no longer even remotely a street car. Very fast, but a trailer queen.
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Old Jan 22, 2002 | 12:58 PM
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1st gen's rule!!!

Sorry, just wondered over form the 1st gen forum.
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Old Jan 22, 2002 | 02:50 PM
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Both had wonderful handling for their day, and still hold their own today, but the FC has a more modern setup so weight isn't much a factor
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