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Old 05-23-06, 05:37 AM
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what could make my tempreture go up? PLZ HELP!!!!!!!!! FOR THE LOVE GOD!

i was driving on a freeway and some ******* threw their gas can out in the street and i happened to run it over. after that, i pulled over to take it out cuz it was stuck under my car. then when i was driving, my shift light was going bananas. then while i was driving, i felt no power in my engine and it was losing speed so i down shifted to give it more power but i still lost power. then when i see my tempreture guage, it was rising so i turned on the heater full blast but still, no power in my engine. it felt like something was dragging it down. so i pulled over to be safe than sorry. once i stop, the car stalls on neutral.... i try to turn the car back on, it wont start so i crank it for a long time and when it turns on, the car sounds like it has trouble idling. i have no clue wtf is wrong wid my 10th AE and im very very sad.. anyone mite know what it is?? do you know icemark? who ever mite know what the problem is and how to fix it, im all ears.. or eyes.... thx..

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Old 05-23-06, 06:30 AM
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Heat is a rotaries natural enemy. If your car over heated then this can cause major problems. The stock temp gauge is pretty much cold, normal, rebuild. Let's hope it didn't go far enough into rebuild. You'll need to give it time to cool down then start it back up from cold start and see how it idles. Once we know what happens from cold start we can go from there. There is a possibility, since it stalled out, that the engine might of been flooded and that's why it was difficult to start back up.
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Running over a gas can - ouch.
Start by looking for damage.
The oil cooler & radiator are both at risk when you hit something like that.
Check the coolant & oil levels, then hope you didn't hurt the engine.
You have to overheat pretty bad to cause a thermal breakdown of the oil enough to start to seize the engine.
The coolant level and/or oil level alarm should have warned you, but the previous owner may have disabled it.
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thx. appreciate it. im gonna check under my car and see if any of those things got dmged. anyone wid other ideas plz post. thx
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well, i tried cranking it while putting it into 1st gear and holding the gas. a whole lotta smoke came out so i let go of the gas. should i keep on flooring it??
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Originally Posted by idsigloo
Heat is a rotaries natural enemy. If your car over heated then this can cause major problems. The stock temp gauge is pretty much cold, normal, rebuild. Let's hope it didn't go far enough into rebuild. You'll need to give it time to cool down then start it back up from cold start and see how it idles. Once we know what happens from cold start we can go from there. There is a possibility, since it stalled out, that the engine might of been flooded and that's why it was difficult to start back up.

ok so i started on a cold engine. it wont start up. it will crank and sounds like it will catch but right when it gets to that point, the engine shuts off. so i tried it over and over and when i the engine started, i revved it couple of times but the engine would still shut off and a **** load of smoke came out. still wondering wuts wrong wid it. flooded?? i honestly dont know. thx
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Sounds like either you overheated it and blew a coolant seal (worst case), or it's just badly flooded. What color is the smoke? What does it smell like? If it has a sweet smell and it is white white, then you probably blew a coolant seal. If not, it might just be unburnt gas.

Try pulling the EGI relay and crank it over for about 5-10 seconds and then pop the relay back in (if you have two people), and it should start.
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Sounds like either you overheated it and blew a coolant seal (worst case), or it's just badly flooded. What color is the smoke? What does it smell like? If it has a sweet smell and it is white white, then you probably blew a coolant seal. If not, it might just be unburnt gas.

Try pulling the EGI relay and crank it over for about 5-10 seconds and then pop the relay back in (if you have two people), and it should start.

while im cranking it the 2nd person pops in the relay back? also, if i did blew the coolant seal which i PROBIBLY did, how do i fix it? rebuild? thx and btw, the smell wasnt sweet, it was strong.. thats the only way i can describe it haha
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Where under the car did the gas can get stuck?

Check your oil level and fuel level. Check for fuel pressure. Then crawl under the car to make sure no wires were cut or damaged. Also be careful because there is a chance that you possibly smashed a fuel line. I believe that they run along the drivers side of the car (memory is foggy).

:::EDIT::: Also, for the love of god, make sure it didn't cut the radiator hose or crack the radiator. Basically, also make sure that the motor has coolant in it.

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Originally Posted by Boostmaniac
Where under the car did the gas can get stuck?

Check your oil level and fuel level. Check for fuel pressure. Then crawl under the car to make sure no wires were cut or damaged. Also be careful because there is a chance that you possibly smashed a fuel line. I believe that they run along the drivers side of the car (memory is foggy).

:::EDIT::: Also, for the love of god, make sure it didn't cut the radiator hose or crack the radiator. Basically, also make sure that the motor has coolant in it.

the gas can got suck under the passenger side behind the front/right wheel. i checked under, all i saw was the oil pan guard got bent up. unless the fuel line is there i dont know. thx
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well.. i kinda got my car to catch but when i finally get it to catch, the car cant hold idle.
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what do you mean the oil pan guard?

Btw, did you check the oil, fuel, coolant level?

Again make sure there was no damage done to any wires or hoses/lines.

Pull the plugs again and make sure they aren't wet.
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like, what wires,hoses,or lines are in the bottom?? what COULD have been dmged? thx
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Well, the coolant return hose is down there...
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I'm 90% sure you've busted a coolant hose. Symptoms match.


Check that out completely, even if you have coolant in there under pressure it could be leaking out and causing the idle problems, high heat, and lack of power.


DON'T let it overheat, get a aftermarket temp guage while you're ******* with it and make sure it doesn't get too hot.


then when i see my tempreture guage, it was rising so i turned on the heater full blast but still,
that makes absolutely no sense :P
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Originally Posted by RyosukeFC3C
I'm 90% sure you've busted a coolant hose. Symptoms match.


Check that out completely, even if you have coolant in there under pressure it could be leaking out and causing the idle problems, high heat, and lack of power.


DON'T let it overheat, get a aftermarket temp guage while you're ******* with it and make sure it doesn't get too hot.




that makes absolutely no sense :P

Turning the heater on opens the heater core and allows for some extra cooling of the system. On some cars, if your thermostat fails, you can turn the heat on full blast and get around for a little while before you can get it fixed.


Check the coolant system and make sure all the fluids are topped off.
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Originally Posted by RyosukeFC3C
I'm 90% sure you've busted a coolant hose. Symptoms match.


Check that out completely, even if you have coolant in there under pressure it could be leaking out and causing the idle problems, high heat, and lack of power.


DON'T let it overheat, get a aftermarket temp guage while you're ******* with it and make sure it doesn't get too hot.




that makes absolutely no sense :P

well.. if ur 90% sure then ill make sure i look at it. where is the coolant hose located at?
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If he busted a coolant hose then you wouldn't have any coolant at all...

Guy, check your fluids. If you don't have a puddle under your car its a good sign that nothing containing liquid was damage. Next, new spark plugs and replace the ones you have or clean your current spark plugs. Usually brake cleaner can get this done. Make sure you let them dry then put them back in. Something else you can do if you want to check you coolant seals is to pull the bottom two spark plugs, pull the injector fuse and crank the engine and see if coolant pours out the spark plug holes. if it does, then your screwed. If not, then you just deflooded your engine, put the clean/new spark plugs back in, put the injector fuse back in and crank the engine and see what we have.

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what should the temp be in F?
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anything around or below 190 should be good.
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Originally Posted by calrx7
well.. if ur 90% sure then ill make sure i look at it. where is the coolant hose located at?

just trace it from the radiator.


i mean, what you've described to me is exactly what happened to me in another car of mine, i kept driving it for about 200kms with the temp guage off the scale and i ended up with a banana head, was pretty funny.

if it wasn't bought for $150 au dollars then i guess i would've gotten it fixed, i think the radiator got blocked or something, pressure built up and cracked a hose, the coolant wasn't leaking when i had it parked, but when you gave it a bit, pressure built up and eventually BANG, coolant spraying on the windscreen.

It made it about 100kms without any coolant, so good on toyota engines :P


anything around or below 190 should be good.
while we're on that, track temps, what do people normally get? i'm looking around 194
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makes sense
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Take a look at this page:

http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/cooling.htm
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eh.. i give up. im juss gonna send my car to rotary power and get it fixed. thx for helpin me out guys.
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had rotary power take a look at the car...
engine is dead. estimating 4-5k for a rebuild.


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