whitelightnin

Hello everyone,

Looking for feedback concerning coilovers for the fc. Please tell what you have and what you like and dislike about them. Im about to get a set and am leaning towards Stance, but havent heard much about the company. Gonna be shelling out approx. 1250$ any input on suspension in that price range?



Rob

AmviciousRav

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koni and gc?

whitelightnin

drop?? handling.

AmviciousRav

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depending on what your doing and it does as good as the big name brands

MaczPayne

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Koni and gc is a proven setup among autocrossers.

Here's what I found with a little search using "coilovers"

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ight=coilovers

Slow Rotor

I dunno how much they were, but there was a set of tein coil overs in my car when i got it. They have the EDFC upgrade and work awesome and its handy being able to set the damping from the drivers seat

phoenix7

ok, so how exactly are you gonna use them?

How is your car handling now?

Bunchies

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Koni with GC rear, Ohlins front

Pros: They handle great, I get custom spring rates for my car. I'm currently set at 380F/340R. It's a little squirrelly, but works pretty well for autox. Easy to adjust damping, camber plates, etc.

Cons: Ohlins are $$$ and will cost a bit to rebuild. Should be straightforward though.

Evil Aviator

Read here:
http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets6.html

Common IT and EP setups are usually Mazda Comp Koni/Eibach kit, the Ground Control kit, JRZ/Eibach, or Bilstein/Eibach. The RSR springs may be pretty good, but I haven't heard much feedback from racers yet. You can see the Race Car Tech forum for more info. JRZ is beyond your budget, but the others should be pretty close.

The cheapest of the above is probably the Bilstein setup:
http://iscracing.net/2nd_Gen_Parts.htm

You can save a lot of money on a Koni/Eibach setup (as well as other RX-7 parts) if you join the Mazdaspeed Motorsports Development team. It is free to join, and all you need to do is enter 2 autocross events and send in the results. Note that you can be the worst driver of all time and still get the sponsorship.
http://www.mazdamotorsports.com/weba...atalogId=10001

If you just want to lower the car and get the "tuner car" look, any of those crappy "drift" setups like Stance or KSport will be just fine.

jorx7

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i got the street set from megan racing they are perfect. they go for think 1050.00. i got them for 600.00 though cause my friends race team is sponsered threw them half price on highpriced items. free for low priced.

http://www.meganracing.com/products/...d=469&catid=93


thats the link above.

Fc3s_d1jp

I got my hands on set of JDM Cusco Zero 2 coilovers, and I love the "CRAPPY DRIFT SETUP" I have. But they can easily be adjusted for grip.

S13nowangel

i am using racing beat performance springs and tokico blues. ontop of puting the energy suspension in and i think that totaled 500.

this set up isn't amazing unless you drove the car before i did the setup. but i like and dislike how i can feel everything in the road. i like it because if i am driving fast i want to be able to feel what the car is doing and what kind of road i am on. however i use it just to cruise around and nh roads are really crappy in some areas and its annoying to feel every crack. but you never know. if i was racing, it would be nice to be able to feel the terrain as well as i do, especially when i take it down the occasional dirt road.

whitelightnin

thanks for the input guys.
i just got some gramlights:

17x7 40+ Front
17x9 40+ Rear

I was thinking coilover because I want the ride height to look great. Obviously performance is more important, but I thought I may be able to get both with the right set of coilovers. Im afraid of buying a specific set of springs and then the height ending up being to low and rubbing the rear tires, or being all jacked up looking like it's on stilts.

incubuseva

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I honestly can't see how people can drop that much money into separate coils + shocks when they can spend a little bit more to get the real coilovers. Or you could spend less + look on ebay for used ones.

I had some base model JIC's. They were super super stiff. Only adjustment was ride height/spring preload. They were great + made the FC handle amazingly! But it got too stiff sometimes on rough city roads.

Now I have some tein HE's. These are even better. Damping force is adjustable along with ride height/spring preload. About the same spring rate as the JIC's, but I find that if I'm driving in the city a lot, I can just turn the damping force all the way down.

I say check ebay for some used ones. Both sets I got were from there, just be careful of purchasing overseas. But if you got the cash to buy new, go for it!

bl00dlust

I have Tein, super street dampener w/ pillow ball upper mount. They rock.
Highly Recommended.

http://www.tein.com/products/super_s...illowball.html

Anubis06

same as man bl00dlust and they are true badass (except for that pothole u sorely missed avoiding)

TitaniumTT

I just absolutely love these threads. There is no hard evidence @ all in here. Just opionions. Megans are the best, no Tiens are the best, GC + tockico blue FTW!they are all crappy drift c/o's, Tiens suck, megans are for 240 losers, GC + tockico blue is a waste of money. Do you realize that the only person to ever post FACT in these threads is black91n/a - he posted a dyno. I hate these threads becuase the ONLY research you can do on suspension is on the track

/thread stop asking this question every day

Evil Aviator

So my link to a comprehensive dyno comparison and listing of setups commonly used in real racing events don't count? I think you can get a good idea of what is actually effective if you look at what the racers are using. While actual testing is nice, most people on this forum can't afford the time and money to buy every combination to see which one they like best. Also, as I stated above, if you just want the "look" then the cheapie stuff is just fine.

TitaniumTT

Whoops - forgot about the far north link. My apologies.

& yes - if you just want the "look" there are C/O's on ebay for $160.

I just don't see the point in dropping $1250 on C/O's when most people don't have the car or the equipment or the knowledge to really take advatange of them

Evil Aviator

Yeah, I think most forum members would be happier with a setup like the one posted by S13nowangel, but it doesn't look "drift" enough, lol. Also, it seems like new bushings are always missing from everybody's wish list for some reason.

TitaniumTT

Yup. That was the single biggest improvement I made to the suspension. Unless they're neon green and lower the car though, I don't think most people would recognize thier benefit.

Furb

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i'm running the silkroad RM/A8 coilover kit with pillowball topmounts and front camberplates.
have them for 2 years now and absolutely no complaints.

friend of mine also has them under his MKIV Supra

incubuseva

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^They stopped producing things long ago though. GL finding them.

Black91n/a

After much research, looking at shock dynos, reading reports from those with experiance with many different setups, reading long term durability reports and experiencing them myself in different cars I decided on Tein Flex's and am very happy with them. They're an excellent entry level coilover for dual duty cars that see track time or autocross use but that also spend a lot of time on the street.

For the FC they're softer than most for better ride comfort and better handling over real world roads that are less than perfectly smooth. Stiffer doesn't equal better.

Roen

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Independent adjustability of compression and rebound. Which japanese coilover under $2k can do that? A revalved Koni/GC setup is just around $2k, and it's a matched unit. A non-matched unit is $1340, and you still can adjust rebound without changing your compression settings. It does a lot for managing weight transfer well. Hell, if you don't care about adjustability, which a lot of people don't since they love to tune their shocks on a shock dyno, a revalved Bilstein/GC setup is only $1360. And who doesn't love Bilstein's damping curves?

Then again, these are the serious race coilover setups, which is in a different league than your standard entry-level street coilovers. Most of these are out of the scope (and the desire) of your average car owner anyway. It all depends on what you want from your money. Great damping with no adjustability to soften the ride to and from an event, or one that gives you a really low drop and adjusters that are hit-or-miss?