What CF parts do you guys want to see?
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Originally posted by fc3s.org
No, there are 2 styles. Split with one on each side and another style with both on the right side of the driver
No, there are 2 styles. Split with one on each side and another style with both on the right side of the driver
what size of gauges can it hold? 52mm? 60mm?
and how would it be installed? on top of the gauge cluster dash or a complete replacement?
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Originally posted by $150FC
is CF that flammable?
is CF that flammable?
also, Ted, explain "pre-preg" for me?
One is "wet lay-up", which uses carbon fiber mat and an epoxy or e-glass/s-glass matrix resin. It's called wet because you get the CF mat and "paint" the resin onto it - it's very similar to how fiberglass is done.
The other, more expensive, type is "dry lay-up" or "pre-preg" (short for "pre-impregnated"). The CF mat is impregnated with the resin (epoxy only?) matrix and then frozen to stop the final cure. The stuff needs to be kept cold before using, and final mold is as easy as letting the stuff warm up to ambient temps. For final set, this stuff should be baked in an autoclave. Because of the total matrix coverage from the pre-preg process, it is a superior and more expensive method.
Wet lay-up stuff can come close to pre-preg matrix coverage through the use of vacuum bagging, but this adds more cost.
-Ted
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Originally posted by RETed
It might or might not be or just a little lighter.
It depends on the process, and very heavy epoxy or glass filler will create a really heavy piece.
One of the reasons I refuse to buy a (wet lay-up) CF hood, is that it is not that significantly lighter than the stock aluminum hood. Paying all that money for just a 5 lbs. weight reduction is not worth in my book. We made a CF hood for the FC, and we kept the filler a minimum but still managed to break 10 lbs. easy - this had no underhood support, so a proper hood will be heavier. The stock aluminum hood is around 30 lbs. I would be willing to pay for a CF hood if it's 15 lbs. or lighter. I don't think you can hit this number unless you use pre-preg and that gets expensive...
-Ted
It might or might not be or just a little lighter.
It depends on the process, and very heavy epoxy or glass filler will create a really heavy piece.
One of the reasons I refuse to buy a (wet lay-up) CF hood, is that it is not that significantly lighter than the stock aluminum hood. Paying all that money for just a 5 lbs. weight reduction is not worth in my book. We made a CF hood for the FC, and we kept the filler a minimum but still managed to break 10 lbs. easy - this had no underhood support, so a proper hood will be heavier. The stock aluminum hood is around 30 lbs. I would be willing to pay for a CF hood if it's 15 lbs. or lighter. I don't think you can hit this number unless you use pre-preg and that gets expensive...
-Ted
BTW, nice to see you Ted (so to speak I guess...not really seeing you) I like what you are doing with the other thread on the FC parts. Very interesting things there
I'm actually following that thread closely to see what kinds of cool things you might come out with.
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Originally posted by REFLUX
I'd love to see pictures of the grouped MM ears (guages on same side)
what size of gauges can it hold? 52mm? 60mm?
and how would it be installed? on top of the gauge cluster dash or a complete replacement?
I'd love to see pictures of the grouped MM ears (guages on same side)
what size of gauges can it hold? 52mm? 60mm?
and how would it be installed? on top of the gauge cluster dash or a complete replacement?
The gauge holes come filled, so you would cut them to whatever size you needed. This allows for a mix of 52mm or 60mm or 2 of each. We were going to make them precut, but since everyone does different things, and makers like Run Racing and RE leave them blank as well, we decided to follow suit. The MM ears pods are covers that use 3M double sided tape for installation.
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We can do a FEED lip no problem. I just need a donor to do the tooling.
vaughnc graciously lent us his MM ears to do the tooling off of, which in the end were just models to mold next to. They are made for RHD, so the back of them that goes next to the defronster vents was the wrong shape. Anyway, if anyone has parts to donate to tooling in exchange for a replacement in CF let me know and we'll see what we can do.
vaughnc graciously lent us his MM ears to do the tooling off of, which in the end were just models to mold next to. They are made for RHD, so the back of them that goes next to the defronster vents was the wrong shape. Anyway, if anyone has parts to donate to tooling in exchange for a replacement in CF let me know and we'll see what we can do.
Let's talk. We just need to find a way to get it down to you. =)
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idiot light surround
all dash vents
stereo/ logicon surround/ center console/ shifter surround
hand brake grip
mirror housings
cold air box
pretty much everything mentioned before.
the s5 stock wing and hatch cover sound really nice and I can't wait to see them
all dash vents
stereo/ logicon surround/ center console/ shifter surround
hand brake grip
mirror housings
cold air box
pretty much everything mentioned before.
the s5 stock wing and hatch cover sound really nice and I can't wait to see them
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Originally posted by drago86
all the stupid little broekn plastic vents . also the plastic thing behind the door handle w/ an aluminum handle would look sweet. The weight of the hoods isnt going up when fiber images makes them is it?
all the stupid little broekn plastic vents . also the plastic thing behind the door handle w/ an aluminum handle would look sweet. The weight of the hoods isnt going up when fiber images makes them is it?
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Originally posted by fc3s.org
We can do a FEED lip no problem. I just need a donor to do the tooling.
vaughnc graciously lent us his MM ears to do the tooling off of, which in the end were just models to mold next to. They are made for RHD, so the back of them that goes next to the defronster vents was the wrong shape. Anyway, if anyone has parts to donate to tooling in exchange for a replacement in CF let me know and we'll see what we can do.
We can do a FEED lip no problem. I just need a donor to do the tooling.
vaughnc graciously lent us his MM ears to do the tooling off of, which in the end were just models to mold next to. They are made for RHD, so the back of them that goes next to the defronster vents was the wrong shape. Anyway, if anyone has parts to donate to tooling in exchange for a replacement in CF let me know and we'll see what we can do.
Actually a Idiot cluster replacement would look pretty cool.
Maybe mold in a side pod on it so you can still see that your car is not blowing up.
That's really similar to what I'm making. Mine is currently made of bondo and a hard playdough stuff though since I am making the mold.
The playdough stuff is actually pretty good for making molds. It is pliable but in 24 hours hardens to a nice shell you can shave with a razor blade.
Maybe mold in a side pod on it so you can still see that your car is not blowing up.
That's really similar to what I'm making. Mine is currently made of bondo and a hard playdough stuff though since I am making the mold.
The playdough stuff is actually pretty good for making molds. It is pliable but in 24 hours hardens to a nice shell you can shave with a razor blade.
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How about some CF petals that fit really well over the existing petals...shift ****...ebrake handle...sunroof panel...armrest assembly...demister grills and other vents...instrument surround...rear view mirror assembly...side view mirrior assembly...and why not ask for something hard---CF doors and hatch...intake manifolds and intake piping(I've seen this on race cars)...that all i can think of for now!
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also i like the idea of having the center console in cf id like to ee that whole strip in cf from the center console to the stereo surround with ebrake in cf i have lots of parts i can send for molding since i aint driving it right now if you want i can send just about anything its a 91 rx 7 n/a coupe
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Originally posted by fc3s.org
BTW, nice to see you Ted (so to speak I guess...not really seeing you) I like what you are doing with the other thread on the FC parts. Very interesting things there I'm actually following that thread closely to see what kinds of cool things you might come out with.
BTW, nice to see you Ted (so to speak I guess...not really seeing you) I like what you are doing with the other thread on the FC parts. Very interesting things there
I'm actually following that thread closely to see what kinds of cool things you might come out with.
It's been a while since FC owners got a little excited about new products, so I started that other thread to see what demand was out there. I welcome your input and this thread as the FC owners will win out with quality products!
I ain't going to deny there's an underlying reason for starting these types of threads, but if there are people willing to build quality products for our FC's, I think we'll all win out. Not only does this help out with product development, but it also gives others an idea of what can be made and sold!
Good luck!
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imagine the whole car being CF..... hood, bumpers, fenders, doors, etc. + CF inside - might not be the most practical, but would be very nice
maybe its kinda overdone - but who doesnt like how CF looks?
maybe its kinda overdone - but who doesnt like how CF looks?
