InNeedOfBoost

has anyone ever used this in thier FC's?? it worked wonders in my 240 but this is my 1st rotary. i have an 88 n/a with a brand new radiator, hoses and fresh coolant. im going to texas world speed way next weekend to run in an event there and i was wondering if thier is any additives or substitues i can use to keep the engine as cool as possible. tips/advice/suggestions?? Thanks

deadRX7Conv

A bigger radiator is the better mod.
Redline waterwetter isn't a fix for anything. I use it, recommend it, but don't have the ability to do a test comparison.
Use it ONLY if your cooling system is working perfectly.
And, it works best with the least amount of coolant. Run it with 30% antifreeze and 70% distilled water. I don't EVER recommend straight water unless you have to.

excitingleopard

I use it in my car, but can't really give you numbers for comparison.

I know that Anex57 uses it and says that it definitely cools down his 88 gtu motor.

InNeedOfBoost

deadrx7, use the water wetter with water AND coolant?? and yes, my coolant system is working perfectly...its all new.

MaczPayne

iTrader: (5)

He said to use it with 30% antifreeze and 70% DISTILLED water.

JoshRX7

iTrader: (5)

I use it.

CodyHokieFD

I also use it, and will continue to

deadRX7Conv

Yes, you use it WITH the coolant/antifreeze. It works best with straight distilled water but I do NOT recommend running straight water EVER. IMO, you MUST have some antifreeze in there.
Since the car will be tracked, you also must abide by their rules for fluid requirements.

And, don't overdose. Add one ounce of Redline for every quart of fluid in the system and/or to every quart added during coolant changes.

Make sure you're using a good thermostat(preferably OEM) and stock cap. And, if you're a daredevil and want to run it with straight distilled water, monitor your weather religiously for freezing and use a higher PSI cap to increase the boiling point of the water.

InNeedOfBoost

thanks for the advice guys

rotary downshift

ive heard wonderful things about royal purple .. i my self dont use it .. i dont need to .. if my engine ran any cooler than it would be stuck in accelerated warm up lol .. but yeah royal purple is supposed to make a world of difference .. i think it claims 30 % cooler

edmcguirk

Water Wetter is a good product for the race track when you want the maximum cooling of pure water or the rules require pure water.

The surfactant function of Water Wetter is already in antifreeze and if you are using antifreeze you don't really need Water Wetter (it doesn't hurt though).

I believe the current ingredient packages in antifreeze are designed to be the right proportions when mixed 50/50 so if you are going to run less antifreeze, Water Wetter is probably still a good idea.

ed

InNeedOfBoost

so would i be ok using just water wetter and straight distilled water if the temp isnt anywhere near freezing?? i dont have to worry about freezing temps here in houston. ill add some coolant in there just to be safe but just a though. i used to run just water and water wetter only in my 240 and it worked wonders at autoX's and other events.

theagavejazz

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if you're gonna run only water, make sure it's distilled, you don't want tap water in your engine.

drago86

No, dont ever unelss you have to, the motor is stacked dis-simmilar metals, straight water corrodes the hell out of it, trust me.

socalrotor

iTrader: (1)

I run tap water and 2 bottles of WW in my NA system. I also have a koyo RAD. The only difference I noticed was less fluctuation with the temp. The gauge is rock solid with the setup I have now. If you read the bottle it states PREVENTS/ ELIMINATES Corrosion. One of the main reasons I use it. Sorry to say, I will trust what redline puts on the bottle, as apposed to a nonsense "trust me " answer, That is a very annoying statement!

For the FACTS try this.........http://www.redlineoil.com/products_coolant.asp


Enough of the BAD INFORMATION, people need to stick to the facts or STFU.

Madrx7racer

i have used water wetter with straight water multiple times......no problems ever.

drago86

http://www.wc101.com/reviews/Additives/

looks like it does do a decent job on corrosion unlike royal purple, but how much corrosion inhibiters could that little bottle really have? I guess it would be ok if you change your coolent alot. Running antifreeze is just safer, it is tested and certified to have to have enough corrosion inhibiters to last x amount of mile. water wetter has no regulation, or stangdard tests, and doesnt specify how long until the corrosion inhibiters are gone and your motor starts to eat itself alive fromt he inside out. I said trust me because ive seen what happens to engines that run straight water (unknow if it had water wetter or not), ost likly not.

socalrotor

iTrader: (1)

Actually if you click the link you would have read the following......

For best protection for aluminum, replenish
or replace every 15,000 miles. The anti-scaling ingredients
in Red Line WaterWetter® allow its use with
ordinary tap water. However, using with distilled or
deionized water will accomplish some scale removal
in the cylinder head area. Plain water with or without
WaterWetter® should not be used in cooling systems
containing magnesium - antifreeze should be used -

Please read the rest before you tell others BS. Obviously it has been thoroughly tested and the results are in the PDF link if you care to look.
Here is the PDF link
http://www.redlineoil.com/whitePaper/17.pdf

BTW your link has got to have THE WORST INFORMATION EVER!!! All they did was reprint what is on the front of the packaging!! That link has got to be an ad.

drago86

Sorry, i missed the replace every 15,00 miles part, my point is that everything you're presenting is still marketing for the water wetter, they are held to no standard. Im not saying dont use water wetter,.. just be safe and keep atleast 30% antifreeze in the system too on a street car.

Madrx7racer

^^^^ good advice.

InNeedOfBoost

lol, didnt mean for this to turn into a debate...

ill try using it with just distilled water, then after 15k ill try it with coolant to see if i seen any difference..

socalrotor

iTrader: (1)

Unless your already pushing the coolant system I don't think it is going to matter if you use a good mix of coolant/water, and keep up on the flushing.But waterwetter couldnt hurt in hot temps. IMO redline products have been proven to be top notch. The shops that I have been to locally ( mazdatrix, Rotary Reliability & Racing, Rotary Power to name a few) ALL have told me to use redline if I can spare the change. The might not be the absolute best, but over all they have excellent products. The links I provided are far from promotion, they are test results, and information on use. Not the kind of genaric infomation you find on YOUR link.

slpin

iTrader: (9)

you live in the bay area...
it doesnt get below freezing here.

slpin

iTrader: (9)

you could just follow mazda's advice...

take out your user manual... 6-20 on 1986 manual

Above -4C (25oF)... 20% antifreeze solution... 80% water
Above -16C (3oF)... 35% antifreeze solution... 65% water
Above -26C (-18oF)... 45% antifreeze solution... 55% water
Above -40C (-40oF)... 55% antifreeze solution... 45% water

drago86

I'm not saying use coolent as anti freeze im saying use it for its anti corrosion properties, ive personally torn apart 2 motors that have used striaght water which were completely destroyed by corrosion.

Socal rotor, your link does own mine, i found mine on google, and im not saying redline products suck, i use redlien in my transmission and have used water wetter before, however i still wouldnt trust the life of my engine on water wetter alone.