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Old 08-27-04, 05:30 PM
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Want a good engine...Only have ~2k

Maybe more...Could probably swing $2500

I really wanted ( and still do ) to go to BDC but I just cant afford it. I looked at Kevin Landers site, but his site says his engines arent really made for high performance..

I just want a big agressive street port with a warranty. Is there any place I should look?

I also check out Atkins for a sec but didnt see any prices on rebuild+porting. Should I check out Pineapple? I remember hearing something bad about them a while ago...Do they have a good rep now?



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I can build you a good engine that'll hold up as well as a stocker...I don't do doweling, oil system mods, coolant passage mods, etc. that normally come with hi-po race motors like pineapple or ito might build. There are many guys on here running modified setups on my motors. IN reality, the parts used in the build determine the quality of the engine more than the builder. They only go together one way, porting is the only gray area that is proprietary and debated from on person to the next. I can build you a nice SP motor for <$2000. I would need a core to build from up front. IF you want new rotorhousings, that price will go up quite a bit...housings have almost doubled in price and availability is limited right now so we'll have to see what your needs are.
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I can build you a good engine that'll hold up as well as a stocker...I don't do doweling, oil system mods, coolant passage mods, etc. that normally come with hi-po race motors like pineapple or ito might build. There are many guys on here running modified setups on my motors. IN reality, the parts used in the build determine the quality of the engine more than the builder. They only go together one way, porting is the only gray area that is proprietary and debated from on person to the next. I can build you a nice SP motor for <$2000. I would need a core to build from up front. IF you want new rotorhousings, that price will go up quite a bit...housings have almost doubled in price and availability is limited right now so we'll have to see what your needs are.


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Yeah. I talked to Jacob Cartmill about it and he told me pretty much the same thing. That the build depends on the core. Well with my core, I think (pretty much know) that my rear housing is pretty messed up. How much would it cost if I needed to replace both housings and get a large street port? And he also said I can bring the car down to you and pay a little extra and youll pull/rebuild/install? The engine is pretty barebones since I installed the haltech, so theres almost nothing you have to hook up.

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I can build you a good engine that'll hold up as well as a stocker...I don't do doweling, oil system mods, coolant passage mods, etc. that normally come with hi-po race motors like pineapple or ito might build. There are many guys on here running modified setups on my motors. IN reality, the parts used in the build determine the quality of the engine more than the builder. They only go together one way, porting is the only gray area that is proprietary and debated from on person to the next. I can build you a nice SP motor for <$2000. I would need a core to build from up front. IF you want new rotorhousings, that price will go up quite a bit...housings have almost doubled in price and availability is limited right now so we'll have to see what your needs are.
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Just for the record, what is involved with sending an engine core out for service?

What if all you know how to do is remove the engine, can we send that?
What kind of rates is it? is it rated at like every 10 miles a 1$ for shipping or something? a motor is pretty big..
Any particular shipping company you can recommend? do shipping companys come out to your place and pick it up for you? or do you drop it off at the shipping depot?
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Well with my core, I think (pretty much know) that my rear housing is pretty messed up.
We'll just have to tear it down and see.

How much would it cost if I needed to replace both housings
Depends on what you've got, what I've got on hand, and how good you want the replacements to be. I have used housings on the shelf for most applications ranging from marginal all the way to like-new, all with varying prices. Usually plan on at least $100 per part for decent stuff (rotor, housing, iron), and for the like-new or very rare stuff (s5 t2 rear iron, for example) $200 per part. IT all just depends, I look at it on a per-situation basis as to what you need/want and what I have.

get a large street port?
Port work is $200...I basically do one size porting on the turbo models, which is a medium to large, works well for the street. I actually did jake's a hair smaller than the norm, at his request. There are pics of port work on my webpage under engines ---> streetporting, go read that. Hell, read it all, thats what it's there for.

And he also said I can bring the car down to you and pay a little extra and youll pull/rebuild/install?
Yup, installation is offered, and that topic is also covered on the page. Standard installation runs $600 in addition to other costs. You're usually looking, on a turbo model with porting and installation at $2000 or so, plus whatever parts are torn up inside (core parts). Most places you can barely walk away with a bare block (minus core charge) for that, and you still have no port work or installation. Note that I offer a longer warranty with install, too. Still not warrantied against abuse or improper setup though, which is what anybody else will tell you too.

The engine is pretty barebones since I installed the haltech, so theres almost nothing you have to hook up.
ON engines/cars with no emissions/AC/PS I usually give a little discount on remove/reinstall because of the added room to work and simplicity.
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ON engines/cars with no emissions/AC/PS I usually give a little discount on remove/reinstall because of the added room to work and simplicity.

Jesus H man, That is cool as hell. it's the little things that make a buisness what it is, and considering how many compliments i see you get and the cool little perks you give just by being cool, your buisness shoudl be rockin.

Great customer support, great information, awesome writeups, good range of services offered and Quality.

Kudos to you and hopefully i'll be able to send an engine to you someday.

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Just for the record, what is involved with sending an engine core out for service?

What if all you know how to do is remove the engine, can we send that?
What kind of rates is it? is it rated at like every 10 miles a 1$ for shipping or something? a motor is pretty big..
Any particular shipping company you can recommend? do shipping companys come out to your place and pick it up for you? or do you drop it off at the shipping depot?
Im not sure if this is directed at me specifically, or just a general question. I have yet to ship an engine across the us/canada border, so I have no idea what additional hoops there are to jump through there. As for my end, my preferred carrier is www.gorlc.com. Their only requirement is that the engine be palleted and secured. When dealing with most rebuilders, they add on a large standard shipping charge to your engine bill. I do not do it this way, but rather you pay actual shipping from you TO me when your engine is shipped from your place, and you pay actual shipping BACK from me to you when it arrives back at your place. Whether you do dock dropoff, business pickup, or residential pickup (costs more) is up to you and your local serving terminal's arrangements with each other (most are flexible, but it depends on the terminal manager and your location/situation).

Read this, it'll answer your question more.

http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/ro.../shipping.html
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Jesus H man, That is cool as hell. it's the little things that make a buisness what it is, and considering how many compliments i see you get and the cool little perks you give just by being cool, your buisness shoudl be rockin.

Great customer support, great information, awesome writeups, good range of services offered and Quality.

Kudos to you and hopefully i'll be able to send an engine to you someday.
Thanks, I appreciate it. As long as this community supports me, I will support it. I'm here for the common enthusiast more than anything else. That, and I don't know of anything I could go and do that'd treat me better

I'd just be happy if people would READ MY FARKING WEBPAGE that has taken at least 18 months to assemble that covers almost any common topic under the sun. IT's there for a reason! And the reason is NOT to be ignored, but that happens anyway. I still get people calling me up asking how much for a rebuild on my 88 NA, how do I remove the engine, how do I ship it, how long does it take, what all do you replace, etc. etc. etc. I know I'm supposed to be here for customer service and all that, but gimme a friggen break, is the entire country illiterate? Sometimes I feel like I'm pissing in the wind...against it at that.
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I didn't realize you had a webpage, but im gonna check it out right now. Thank you for the specifics bro.
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Kevin Landers, you are so cool. I wish I lived closer to you, but being in WA shipping would not be so fun

Therefore, I'm taking it upon myself to give it a go, since the closest rotary builders are atkins (expensive) and a few others that I don't trust. Hopefully I don't screw anything up during the tear down and port
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So is there anyway I could coax you into a larger-than-average streetport? A real agressive one?
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So is there anyway I could coax you into a larger-than-average streetport? A real agressive one?
The one I already do is a pretty good size, almost to the limits of the material behind the ports. Im not comfortable going any farther, to be honest. I'll show you why if you're ever here and remind me.

[I didn't realize you had a webpage, but im gonna check it out right now. Thank you for the specifics bro.
Prime example. My signature is full of info about this, but you just said you had no idea. IT says "REBUILT ENGINES AVAILABLE $1000 and up:
www.rotaryresurrection.com".

How do you miss that?

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kevin's business is definitely rockin how do you all think he afford those denali's with 22" blingers and TVis in the headrests? lol

adamlewis, i say lets go get that other s5TII core from nweiss (so you have two cores) and get kevin to to build you a nice engine (with medium to large porting) out of all the parts we bring him, thats pretty much what i did.

i think you could get away with ~2000 bucks and probably a nice warranty w/ a hell of a country accent too

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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
is full of info about this, but you just said you had no idea. IT says "REBUILT ENGINES AVAILABLE $1000 and up:
www.rotaryresurrection.com".

How do you miss that?


Well i can understand why people don't notice it, first off it's red, not very noticable on a white background, Also you have it in at least every thread you post in. so you just need to make it white and post it up less, then it'll fore sure get noticed.

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all i know is that if my t2 needs a rebuild if i dont do it myself would go to no one but RR .. sorry to anyone else who rebuilds but his reputation carries past this forum
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Judge ITO is crazy good, but he's in NJ... What's with the best shops bein on the wrong side of the country
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The one I already do is a pretty good size, almost to the limits of the material behind the ports. Im not comfortable going any farther, to be honest. I'll show you why if you're ever here and remind me.


Prime example. My signature is full of info about this, but you just said you had no idea. IT says "REBUILT ENGINES AVAILABLE $1000 and up:
www.rotaryresurrection.com".

How do you miss that?

Well thats all I want. Just a big agressive street port. Can I bring my car down there next weekend? Do you want me to take off the manifolds and all that for you first just to make it easier?

It shouldnt cost more in the end than ~$2400, should it?
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Judge ITO is crazy good, but he's in NJ... What's with the best shops bein on the wrong side of the country

Does he have a website? I tried searching a little bit but didnt see one.
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I dont know that I've ever seen anyone post a website for Ito. His shop is called JR Rotary. He does top notch work, caters more to the high end racer scene, does a lot of old school work, bridges, halfbridges, nitrous, etc. HE and BDC do the best port work I've ever seen.
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Can I bring my car down there next weekend?
Sure, just be sure I know you're coming. I am in and out a lot especially on weekends. I usually ask for a reminder call about a couple of hours before you arrive, just in case I've forgot and wandered off somewhere. You'll need to bring a bit of deposit money with you, $600 or so. Cash, money order, bank check, paypal, whatever.


Do you want me to take off the manifolds and all that for you first just to make it easier?
Not unless you just want to. The longblock stuff is cake once the engine is out on the stand. Either way, I guess. I thought that's what you were paying me to do, though

It shouldnt cost more in the end than ~$2400, should it?
Not unless most of your core is totally fucked, no. I'd look for $2000-2200 max. IF you bring extra cores with you, and they contain useable parts, I'll give you extra credit for that stuff, too. I'm sure you all have access to hundreds of rotary cores that the dukes of hazard discarded in the kentucky coal mines, right?

Dude, that reminds me. I've heard so many stories of people stealing and stripping FD's and similar cars and then burying them in the coal mines. I went to Lexington today to pick up a car and some cores, and I spotted a really beat up (but streetable) FD at a redneck engine shop. I've gotta call about that **** next week, I may save it from a hard life.
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