reatrdedspleen

Im getting my first vert... ive wanted one for a long time, only thing i dont like about the vert is the corner window on the doors..

a couple years ago i heard somebody talk of replacing a vert window with a coup window. this would be awesome. i really dont like how the corner window makes me feel a little crowded..

so my question is, does anybody have any info on if this is possible? or how much modification would be needed? and how close are the windows in size? Im very interested!

younis

im with ya on this one, ive been doing some research and havnt really found anything but im still lookin, i was given a vert last week and im not a big fan of the windows

HotRodMex

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Aren't the windows like that to support the a-pillar, since there is no roof? That's a pretty severe rake on the rather large windshield to go unsupported.

reatrdedspleen

nope, if you feel how sturdy they are (the a pillars) with the door open its just fine. and the triangle window isnt exactly very strong either... im half afraid when im drifting my passenger is gunna hold onto it and rip it off lol.


so... this is pretty cool, nobody knows? icemark? I remember your vert, it was pretty clean i thought you might chime in on this one.

toplessFC3Sman

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even if you do this, the window wont seal correctly against the A-pillar, you will probably need to get some custom seals to fit in there. I dont remember, but you may run into issues with space inside the door to fit the window, track and everything. Good luck tho

HotRodMex

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Actually, I forgot that the windows go with the door when it is opened. D'oh.

And as far as the window seals, I'm sure you could modify one from a coupe to work. I think the only issue would be at the already questionable seal area where the top meets the door and windshield. Would this whole process be any harder than getting a coupe wind and regulator?

I would like to see pics though.

hurleysurf24

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i dont think theyd fit due to the speakers in the bottom corner (in s5) .. i could be wrong though

staticguitar313

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ok all i have to say about this is it'll look hacked up, i own a coupe thats been choped into a targa and the doors look REDICULOUS when opened, look . . .


aside from looking like ***, running or bumping into these IS NOT FUN. and the windows will NOT roll up all the way or EVENLY, stick with your vert doors.

phoenix7

^^^^ wouldn't YOU benefit from VERT doors?

lov-2-rev

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I think I can answer these questions. I am in the process of doing this on my vert build-up.

The corner windows do not support the A-pillars. The vertical window brace that acts as the moving window track does support the top of the door frame. Using chopped coupe doors without this brace does allow flex in the door pillar to occur.
The window will seal against the A-pillar, because it still has the same track line and curvature. You can modify coupe door seals to work.

Vert doors will not accept coupe glass due to the inner door bracing. You would have to cut the brace below the triangle window pillar. Cutting down coupe doors is more bodywork, but a better option.
HOWEVER, the trailing edge of the coupe glass is a different angle then the convertible roof opening. This would require you to trim the coupe window down (which supposedly isn't possible because it is tempered glass), or........ have custom windows made out of plexi., acrilic, etc...... This is a monumental project that requires someone with excellent design, welding and filling skills........



or someone lacking brains.......... Guess which one I am.

staticguitar313

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i would, but i'd benefit even more by welding the sunroof back in and throwing normal doors back on, which i'm planning on doing.

phoenix7

naw, you should keep it the way it is for novelty purposes. You seriously can't somehow keep modifying it till it's perfect? I remember when you first got it and everyone thought it was cool despite the fitment issues, and leaks. You already HAVE a coupe that's being worked on but the targa FC is a very different modification. You know what you want but I still think the novelty of it overpowers the crappyness.

reatrdedspleen

thankyou. you answered my questions pretty well. Im a little curiouse to grab a coup window and compare with a vert window, and see what would need to be done. evently my vert will be track only. when that happens, i may just remove most of the door, and windows altogether. so i gues we will see.

I really wish it was simple lol i guess that would be the good life. its too bad mazda fucked up on the vert window design.

HotRodMex

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You ever think they might have done it for some aerodynamic reasons, too? Like without those windows, you'd get pelted in the face with air with both the top and windows down? (and nobody reference the coupe windows, because you don't put the top down in a coupe). I know nobody here is fond of "well Mazda probably had a good reason," but given my experience with other Mazdas, and my respect for the company and its engineering philosophies, I would like to think it was there for a good reason.

I like my A-windows.

andersonvann

damn that targa is clean!

lov-2-rev

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Believe it or not, I notice absolutly no difference in air turbulance with the top and windows down.

7dust

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The vert is an awesome car - needs no changes.

I think only homosexuals drive FC coupes.

HotRodMex

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My point. Would it be the same with the A-windows removed? We won't know unless someone gets rid of them first. I'm fine with mine, though, so I'll leave that to someone else.