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Old 01-22-08, 09:18 PM
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Un-sucking the mouse belts

I was driving around and I wondered: "What if the mouse belts sucked less?"

I thought about how Schroth makes automatic 4-point harnesses that have a bypass switch for hard driving...

I wonder if the stock automatic belts could be electronically hijacked like this with a switch of some sort? It wouldn't change the safety of the car, it would simply make the belts think the car is accelerating/decelerating, and lock the shoulder belt (ie, before an autocross run). That way you could have them tight against you, instead of tight, but with an inch or so of slack that you normally get.


On another note, the more pertinent lap belt is even less useful than the shoulder belt, because it ONLY functions when you're slamming on the brakes. I can't imagine there would be a safe way to bypass the release mechanically. But I wonder if there's a way were one could use a CG Lock to keep the belt tight.

Of course, this would probably only work if you've got a bucket seat with harness holes (I'm wondering whether this could work somehow), or if you fabbed up some sort of mechanism to hold the lock where you could pull the belt tight.

So, electrical gurus... is there some sort of simple signal that goes to the shoulder belt that could be controlled manually so as to lock the belt (and not to loosen it)?

Or would that require modifying the actual electronics (besides splicing and adding wires and a switch)?


(yes, I could just get manual belts, but then you have to trick the seatbelt light to leave you alone when you haven't plugged the auto belts in... the same goes for installing a harness on top of the auto belts).
Old 01-22-08, 10:34 PM
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I suck at reading schematics, but I can see that the retractor has a four-plug connector... so I figure if you get power to some number of these wires, you can lock the retractor up... and then adjust the seat to snug the belt up.

Can someone decipher the schematics? They're in the BODY section of the S5 FSM.
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