turbo hood on non turbo?
08-04-10, 09:18 PM
#27
So much significance to this phrase if you really think about it
O.o mr.10 posts says poser, must be!
Ignorant idiot.
Do what you think looks nice. Its an oem part, not a triple-stacked aluminum demon spoiler.
Its just annoying hearing people moan and complain about dumb **** lol.
*forgive my mood, I've dealt with idiots for 14 hours straight... then I come on 7club
O.o mr.10 posts says poser, must be!
Ignorant idiot.
Do what you think looks nice. Its an oem part, not a triple-stacked aluminum demon spoiler.
Its just annoying hearing people moan and complain about dumb **** lol.
*forgive my mood, I've dealt with idiots for 14 hours straight... then I come on 7club
08-04-10, 09:20 PM
#28
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
[QUOTE=nate91242;10147748]Yes.
Although...
Wonder why most turbo II guys leave that hood on once they go to a fmic? Surely its more functional to throw an aluminum n/a hood on it? Oh because the TII hood looks nice lol
No. You're wrong...
Please explain. I removed the rubber piece on the inside and air has to be rushing in when the car is moving. How would a steel hood thats sealed keeping all the hot air in be better? And concerning the aluminum na hood. Yeah its nice but the t2 hood looks so much better.
Although...
Wonder why most turbo II guys leave that hood on once they go to a fmic? Surely its more functional to throw an aluminum n/a hood on it? Oh because the TII hood looks nice lol
No. You're wrong...
Please explain. I removed the rubber piece on the inside and air has to be rushing in when the car is moving. How would a steel hood thats sealed keeping all the hot air in be better? And concerning the aluminum na hood. Yeah its nice but the t2 hood looks so much better.
08-04-10, 09:34 PM
#29
Please explain. I removed the rubber piece on the inside and air has to be rushing in when the car is moving. How would a steel hood thats sealed keeping all the hot air in be better? And concerning the aluminum na hood. Yeah its nice but the t2 hood looks so much better.
The air coming in the scoop counter acts air coming through the radiator by essentially pushing against the air flowing through the radiator. Its the same principle with mad-tyte hood risers.
A reverse vented hood would work like your thinking, because as the air flows over the vents, it vacuums the air out of the engine compartment, and pulls on the air coming through the radiator.
08-04-10, 11:54 PM
#30
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
The air coming in the scoop counter acts air coming through the radiator by essentially pushing against the air flowing through the radiator. Its the same principle with mad-tyte hood risers.
A reverse vented hood would work like your thinking, because as the air flows over the vents, it vacuums the air out of the engine compartment, and pulls on the air coming through the radiator.
A reverse vented hood would work like your thinking, because as the air flows over the vents, it vacuums the air out of the engine compartment, and pulls on the air coming through the radiator.
08-05-10, 12:19 AM
#31
Also the underbelly pan is designed to help with airflow. And I recently saw a RX hood for sale, IIRC it had inlet vents on the front of the hood and exit vents at the back that ran the width of the hood in front of the wipers.
I'm no expert on aerodynamics, but seems logical that all these little things would add up to help the whole system operate better.
As for the aluminum and steel hood thing. I believe the steel hoods were manufactured as insurance claim replacements after accidents in order to keep repair costs down.
08-05-10, 06:03 AM
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i just did the turbo II hood swap last week and im pretty damn satisfies 
before
after =]
just need my new lip, new hood scoop and its ready for paint
poser or not.. looks damn good to me
before
after =]
just need my new lip, new hood scoop and its ready for paint
poser or not.. looks damn good to me
08-05-10, 08:27 AM
#34
With my TII hood on my N/A 7, it has the "JDM Hood Prop" meaning there's spacers right where the hinges are letting "hot air" out with the given space it has. When driving you can feel the hot air hitting the windshield and at idle you can feel the fan blowing the "hot air" out as well.
Maybe this can be a method to let "hot air" out better? I read in a magazine that this trick can cool the engine bay 10-20 degrees less than normal (test was done on a 93 miata) no way of knowing unless you test it.
Maybe this can be a method to let "hot air" out better? I read in a magazine that this trick can cool the engine bay 10-20 degrees less than normal (test was done on a 93 miata) no way of knowing unless you test it.
08-05-10, 11:25 AM
#36
Aluminum hoods were supposedly standard on the heaviest models (convertibles and TIIs) and also the GTUs, but apparently also appeared occasionally on even the 4-lug cars, especially in '86. Aside from the GTUs, Mazda never made a very big deal about the aluminum hoods in its marketing. When the FC was released, Mazda was trying to do whatever it could to keep fuel economy reasonable, so that may be the real reason why the aluminum hoods existed in the first place and were mainly used on the heaviest cars.
There were some TIIs that came from the factory with steel hoods, not just as "insurance replacements." In fact, I saw one at a car show just a few weeks ago. I have no idea why Mazda did this. My guess is that there may have been times when they couldn't get sheet aluminum for stamping into hoods so they switched to steel to keep the lines rolling, but who really knows?
There were some TIIs that came from the factory with steel hoods, not just as "insurance replacements." In fact, I saw one at a car show just a few weeks ago. I have no idea why Mazda did this. My guess is that there may have been times when they couldn't get sheet aluminum for stamping into hoods so they switched to steel to keep the lines rolling, but who really knows?
08-05-10, 11:43 AM
#37
steel TII hoods are not OEM, you used to be able to purchase aftermarket crash and rust steel hoods, the TII car was sold and advertised as having a aluminum hood.
So you should not put TII skirts on the car either, because only turbo cars had the skirts?
do as you please with the car
So you should not put TII skirts on the car either, because only turbo cars had the skirts?
do as you please with the car
08-05-10, 12:01 PM
#38
There weren't supposed to be OEM steel TII hoods, but they are out there though. The one I just saw was owned by an older guy who bought it new. I remember a thread on this site a few years ago when some other original TII owners confirmed that their cars came from the factory with steel hoods. Definitely rare (and undesirable), but not unheard of.
08-05-10, 12:42 PM
#39
There weren't supposed to be OEM steel TII hoods, but they are out there though. The one I just saw was owned by an older guy who bought it new. I remember a thread on this site a few years ago when some other original TII owners confirmed that their cars came from the factory with steel hoods. Definitely rare (and undesirable), but not unheard of.
87 is the only year model i've seen with steel TII hoods, but not ALL of them, just some.
08-05-10, 01:31 PM
#41
Seen one here too, on l)arkspeed7's car. i know what an aftermarket hood looks like, almost no one goes through the time of replacing all the factory stickers on the underside of the hood, espially when they are cutting cost by using a steel hood in there first place, like there really gonna go pay for new underhood decals, i think not.
87 is the only year model i've seen with steel TII hoods, but not ALL of them, just some.
87 is the only year model i've seen with steel TII hoods, but not ALL of them, just some.
I found the old thread I was thinking about:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...tii+steel+hood
In it, Aaron Cake posted this summary of the steel vs. aluminum hood question:
-most early NAs ('86) had Al hoods
-later NAs recieved steel or Al hoods on random
-all verts came with AL hoods
-all GTUs's came with AL hoods
-sports had AL hoods
-early TII's had steel hoods
-later TIIs had a mix of the two
08-05-10, 04:39 PM
#45
if you are saying a 1987 TII might have had a steel hood I might accept it, but no way a s5 came with a steel TII hood
hoods get damaged before people own the car, at the time a steel TII hood was dealer cost $100, versus well over $100 for a alum.
So you think if something happens to that hood when the car was new the dealer would not replace $20 worth of decals to give the hood a original appearance?
hoods get damaged before people own the car, at the time a steel TII hood was dealer cost $100, versus well over $100 for a alum.
So you think if something happens to that hood when the car was new the dealer would not replace $20 worth of decals to give the hood a original appearance?
08-05-10, 11:13 PM
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Mine was in a very minor accident, and the good got bent. The jackass previous owner swapped the aluminum hoof for a steel one.
Yes, it's ******* heavy.
Yes, it's ******* heavy.
08-06-10, 04:29 AM
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i would say if you like the turbo II hood, then why not? Us N/A owners can only do so much to make more power with out giving up body parts and first born children, seems 200hp is the limit if your budget can fit it, bolt on power adders are almost a joke, so why not make the car look good? besids you can only dirve sooo fast...so building your street car for max speed on a track is a wast of time for those of us who just like owning a unique car.
my 2 cents is do what ever you want to YOUR rx7, second gen's are getting to be pretty rare so seeing some one take pride in a 20 year old car is amazing, keep fiddleing with it, its your first car, so no matter what happends you will love it to death, and drive it untell the wheels fall off:P
how ever i do agree on spending money on making sure it runs right, these car's have a nasty habbit of being a finacial black hole! good luck and keep posting so we can see how it turns out!
my 2 cents is do what ever you want to YOUR rx7, second gen's are getting to be pretty rare so seeing some one take pride in a 20 year old car is amazing, keep fiddleing with it, its your first car, so no matter what happends you will love it to death, and drive it untell the wheels fall off:P
how ever i do agree on spending money on making sure it runs right, these car's have a nasty habbit of being a finacial black hole! good luck and keep posting so we can see how it turns out!
08-06-10, 05:54 AM
#48
if you are saying a 1987 TII might have had a steel hood I might accept it, but no way a s5 came with a steel TII hood
hoods get damaged before people own the car, at the time a steel TII hood was dealer cost $100, versus well over $100 for a alum.
So you think if something happens to that hood when the car was new the dealer would not replace $20 worth of decals to give the hood a original appearance?
hoods get damaged before people own the car, at the time a steel TII hood was dealer cost $100, versus well over $100 for a alum.
So you think if something happens to that hood when the car was new the dealer would not replace $20 worth of decals to give the hood a original appearance?
I meant to type cost was over $1000 for a alum hood, not $100- doh
