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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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There's no real issue running 550CC primaries with the stock ECU and an S-AFC. In which case you will want to use larger secondaries.

Really you are in standalone territory since you are not using the stock turbo.

yeah thats what everyone is saying, so ill prolly end up trading for a stocker and cash. Its supposed to come thursday so ill look at it and decide.


If i use a stock t2 manifold with the stock turbo will i have to get a spacer?
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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You or someone you know run into problems with those? If so, what kind of problem.

when they say high imp injectors, they mean high imp
resistance measured anywhere from 38 to 60 on the box of injectors
it fried a ecu, how i dont know???

i am not sure how it injects the fuel either... could be right, could be way the **** off... eitherway, i wouldnt really trust them....
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by slpin
when they say high imp injectors, they mean high imp
resistance measured anywhere from 38 to 60 on the box of injectors
it fried a ecu, how i dont know???

i am not sure how it injects the fuel either... could be right, could be way the **** off... eitherway, i wouldnt really trust them....
Hmmm, something to look out for. I have a pair,m that is why i ask. I will check the ohms and see what I find.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by spot_skater
I heard Venom injectors, when tested, have a lower flow rate than advertised.
Anyone confirm this?
It all depends on which pressure the testing is done at. Some test at 3 bar, some test at less.

Originally Posted by slpin
when they say high imp injectors, they mean high imp
resistance measured anywhere from 38 to 60 on the box of injectors
it fried a ecu, how i dont know???
A higher impedance injector will never fry an ECU. Your ECU may have indeed fried, but it was not because of the injector.

I've also NEVER seen an injector measure out with that much resistane. The highest I've ever seen was about 15 Ohms.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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THIS IS ON A LITTLE PAPPER THAT CAME WITH THE INJECTORS


These injectors are 720cc direct fit injectors for 86-91 Turbo, and NON Turbo . You will receive 4# of them. Direct drop in injectors, which are very hard to find. Other people sell the disk type No need for cutting wiring harnesses, etc. Just unplug the old ones, and drop these ones in. Comes with new grommets, and orings. The electronic fuel injector is the termination point for the entire fuel delivery system. There is very small allowable variance in the quantity and spray pattern of the fuel delivered. As the demands placed upon this component increases with increasing degrees of performance the allowable variances must decrease. At Venom performance our fuel injectors are built to insure maximum expectations are achieved at each and every performance level.

All Venom fuel Injectors come with Bushings, O-rings, and filter baskets ! Balanced and matched to increase flow rate and atomization, tolerance held within +/- 1.5% of their nominal pound/flow. Advanced polymer is used in our o-rings to insure that there is no o-ring failure. Electrical plugs are molded of aerospace grade material, and utilize Solid copper terminals to increase current flow to the electromagnetic coil. Guide pins are slightly oversized for tighter fit reducing terminal corrosion. Fuel Injectors are leak tested at three times OEM operating pressure.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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Ill now be puting the turbo up for sale or trade +cash.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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why did you choose that intercooler?
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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cause its small so it will be easy to fit
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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but the inlet and outlet are on the same side. you will have to route the piping accross the motor or the intercooler itself. looks lke more of a headache than its worth.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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hm... i mean the end tank design will hinder performance.

not to mention it doesnt look like is deviding the air. it will just mix the air.

that intercooler looks like its completely crap.

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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dregg100
but the inlet and outlet are on the same side. you will have to route the piping accross the motor or the intercooler itself. looks lke more of a headache than its worth.

No, My 86 N/A have the exhast (where the turbo will be duh) and the intake on the same side.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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holy crap. Make sure you have someone take a bunch of pics of your build. Another turboed N/A. Make sure it's safe to push it before you go crazy. You don't wanna blow that motor.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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holy crap. Make sure you have someone take a bunch of pics of your build. Another turboed N/A. Make sure it's safe to push it before you go crazy. You don't wanna blow that motor.

yeah im gonna take it a few psi at a time and not going to go over 7 psi till i have the motor rebuild and ported.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 04:00 PM
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so which turbo did you get? once we know the size we can figure out the fuel
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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oh i thought it you were doing a turbo swap. why not just do a Tii swap?
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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I hope you didn't waste your money on Venom injectors. Same injectors could have been had for alot less by simply shopping around.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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yep i got venom injectors, but at no cost to me x-mas FTW!!!


Its a t4 turbo .60 .85, i think fuel will be fine, im trading 2 720cc for some 550cc for primarys so i think ill be ok. and ill have safc to help untill i get a standalone
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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get a stand alone first. your gonna end up spending too much money on this.
go slow.
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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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nah, aaron cake ran low boost fine with a safc, so untill i get a rebuild/ported motor safc it will be.
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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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course, i guess if hes getting a new motor then he doesnt mind blowing this one up.
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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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nah not really.
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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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wow.... you still have time to resell some of the stuff you bought and get a stand alone. If you are bent on staying with the SAFC and 18 year old mazda tech, at the very least get a MSD ignition that retards timing under boost. Otherwise you're going to blow this motor, send it to be rebuilt, find out you also need a new rotor and housing, have it built, and finally blow it again.
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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You'll have no problems running low boost with an S-AFC and stock timing.
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