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Old Aug 19, 2001 | 02:18 AM
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Question Trying to help friend with car won't start

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I recently aquired a 1987 RX7 non turbo with 47,000 miles on it from the original owner. The car has been sitting for about 1 1/2 years since it was last started. The problem is, it won't. I have traced the problem to lack of fuel specificaly the fuel pump is not getting power. Do you know of a relay or solinoid that may need to be reset or replaced after prolonged storage or if this is a common problem.
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thanks in advance, my personal advisor/mechanic is unavailable so I turn to the vast knowledge of you wonderful folks!
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Old Aug 19, 2001 | 08:28 AM
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If its been sitting for a year and a half, the gasoline itself is part of the problem. Gas goes bad over time, sits long enough inside the hoses, and it actually turns to a jelly. Have him open up the fuel tank where the pump goes in (located in the hatch area, just lift up the carpet and you'll see it) and look inside to see if its gotten that bad. Even if it isn't, I would suggest draining the tank and filling it with fresh gasoline. He should also replace the fuel filter.

Now, since he's been attempting to start it, he may have fouled the plugs, he should keep an eye on them. They get fouled very easily. It would be a pity if he got the fuel flowing only to not be able to ignite it due to dirty plugs.

And not to sound obnoxious, but he should check all the fuses. I *think* there's one for the fuel supply under the hood. I know he has an '87, but here's a link to the '88 Service Manual, it should be similar enough for him.

Good luck!
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Old Aug 19, 2001 | 10:30 AM
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You seem to be certain that the fuel pump is not working. Did you know that it does not pump unless that little door in the mass air flow sensor opens? There is a micro sw that makes a circuit for the fuel pump, but only if air is being drawn thru the mass air flow sensor. There is a way around this. There is a two wire, yellow connector near the right hand strut tower. Its not connected to anything. Just laying about. It has a black and a brown wire. Jumper this connector and turn the key to the on position(do not start the car). The pump should be pumping. To be sure, loosen the banjo bolt on the secondary fuel rail. Its on the right hand side of the engine, at the rear of the engine. Just break it loose and it should spray fuel. All the above posts about purging the fuel in the tank should be done first. Also like they say, make sure all the fuses in the engine bay are good. They are under that black rectangular box near the left hand strut tower. Might do that first.
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Old Aug 22, 2001 | 10:44 AM
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Thanks

Got it traced down to a dead pump. Filter was nasty too. Thanks for the help!

Daqiri
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Old Aug 22, 2001 | 12:23 PM
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i just had to replace my fuel pump a couple days ago
its soo easy to change too the pump cost me $380 though and that hurt. my old one wasnt dirty it was only putting out 5psi of pressure
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Old Aug 22, 2001 | 12:38 PM
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Yea I have the same problem right now. Whenever I get enough time I will try some of those things. I have just been takin the sittin of the car as an opportunity to fix some small things. I already changed the plugs, wires, and fuel filter. And also checked all the fuses. I guess its time to check the pump. How hard is it to get to? I mean just pull the carpet and them wut? Thanks for any help.

Chris

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I have dreams for this ryde, so as much info would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Aug 22, 2001 | 04:03 PM
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Here's a link to the '88 service manual: http://www.iluvmyrx7.com/Service_Man...ice_manual.htm

Pull up the carpeting, disconnect the wires that go to a hatch-like panel, unscrew the lid, and lift; everything is attached.
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Old Aug 22, 2001 | 04:23 PM
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worse case scenario the apex seals are stuck. Rrotaries love to be spun and hate to stay still..
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Old Aug 22, 2001 | 09:47 PM
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right now my car will crank but just won't start up..can't figure it out....any ideas? any help is greatly appreciated
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Old Aug 23, 2001 | 04:12 PM
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hey

Originally posted by CanadianRX7
i just had to replace my fuel pump a couple days ago
its soo easy to change too the pump cost me $380 though and that hurt. my old one wasnt dirty it was only putting out 5psi of pressure
Hey why did you pay $380 for your fuel pump, I've seen upgraded ones for much less. I'm not sure if my fuel pump is bad but if it is I'm going to replace it with a better one and get the secondaries from a TII. Should make my car a lil faster I think. And I'll be ahead of the game if I ever decide to go S/C. Well could you tell me how you knew your fuel pump was bad? thanks.

Chris
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