2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

Timing question?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 11, 2017 | 07:43 PM
  #1  
littlebit421's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 467
Likes: 11
From: Carolinas
Timing question?

I like to tinker so I decided to check the timing on my 87 na today. The results were
L1. 17 deg ATDC
T1. 10 deg ATDC

So in the fsm it says trailing should be at 20 and leading at 5 deg ATDC.

What is going on here, why is my leading higher than trailing. What do I do?

I double checked and made sure I was at my leading wire amd trailing with the timing light and all the wires are hooked up correctly.
Reply
Old May 12, 2017 | 08:35 AM
  #2  
DaBrkddy's Avatar
Smells like 2 stroke.
Tenured Member: 15 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 527
Likes: 20
From: Misery
Did you jumper the initial set connector first to "lock" the timing to factory preset before checking it?

The pickup coil on my timing light some times cross-triggers (picks up the energy from the other plug wires) if I don't isolate it from the other plug wires. Also I've read that you should have it as close to the spark plug as it can be without cross-triggering. Also if you have an adjustable timing light you should calculate based on the factory timing marks.

Reply
Old May 12, 2017 | 03:54 PM
  #3  
littlebit421's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 467
Likes: 11
From: Carolinas
Originally Posted by DaBrkddy
Did you jumper the initial set connector first to "lock" the timing to factory preset before checking it?

The pickup coil on my timing light some times cross-triggers (picks up the energy from the other plug wires) if I don't isolate it from the other plug wires. Also I've read that you should have it as close to the spark plug as it can be without cross-triggering. Also if you have an adjustable timing light you should calculate based on the factory timing marks.
I did not jumper the initial set connector, what where when and how do I do that?

The timing light is adjustable and believe or not the yellow and red marks are still there, yellow is more difficult to see but its there. so I am able to adjust the light to get a good reading I think.

Last edited by littlebit421; May 12, 2017 at 03:57 PM. Reason: Typo
Reply
Old May 12, 2017 | 06:48 PM
  #4  
DaBrkddy's Avatar
Smells like 2 stroke.
Tenured Member: 15 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 527
Likes: 20
From: Misery
The initial set connector is to the left of the leading coil. It is the two terminal green female connector. Jumper these two wires with the ignition key off, engine warm. When you're finished checking/adjusting your timing, don't forget to shut the engine off before you remove the wire. I'm not too familiar with adjustable timing lights (mine is from the dark ages and is non-adjustable.) If your timing light is adjustable, I believe you should set the dial to zero.
Reply
Old May 12, 2017 | 06:51 PM
  #5  
littlebit421's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 467
Likes: 11
From: Carolinas
Originally Posted by DaBrkddy
The initial set connector is to the left of the leading coil. It is the two terminal green female connector. Jumper these two wires with the ignition key off, engine warm. When you're finished checking/adjusting your timing, don't forget to shut the engine off before you remove the wire. I'm not too familiar with adjustable timing lights (mine is from the dark ages and is non-adjustable.) If your timing light is adjustable, I believe you should set the dial to zero.
On my timming light there is a dial and when your checking the timing you rotate the **** until the mark is lined up and that tells you your timing, very simple and easy to read.
Reply
Old May 12, 2017 | 07:23 PM
  #6  
j9fd3s's Avatar
Moderator
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 31,833
Likes: 3,232
From: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
Originally Posted by littlebit421
On my timming light there is a dial and when your checking the timing you rotate the **** until the mark is lined up and that tells you your timing, very simple and easy to read.
except that it will be wrong.
Reply
Old May 12, 2017 | 09:05 PM
  #7  
littlebit421's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 467
Likes: 11
From: Carolinas
Originally Posted by j9fd3s
except that it will be wrong.
Well then, now what? I am confused now.
Reply
Old May 12, 2017 | 09:11 PM
  #8  
littlebit421's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 467
Likes: 11
From: Carolinas

I was under the impression that I turn the **** until the mark lines up with the notch on the pulley and that was the timing advanced.
Reply
Old May 12, 2017 | 10:23 PM
  #9  
j9fd3s's Avatar
Moderator
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 31,833
Likes: 3,232
From: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
Originally Posted by littlebit421

I was under the impression that I turn the **** until the mark lines up with the notch on the pulley and that was the timing advanced.
it would be on a piston engine with a distributor. with a rotary leave it at zero
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:22 PM.