TII drive train into a GXL
04-24-03, 05:06 PM
#4
FC Mobsta
Go to mazdatrix..as long as you use the same series parts, all the counterweights are the same regardless of n/a or turbo.
You'd just need a TII flywheel to use the TII trans and rear end.
You'd just need a TII flywheel to use the TII trans and rear end.
04-24-03, 05:11 PM
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Tampa, Fl
Posts: 387
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
no...the clutches are different cause of the difference in the flywheel. It should be a simple swap. Just do the whole assebly, dont switch parts. Take out the whole NA drive train and put in the whole TII drive train and flywheel. I think you need the counterweight too though to keep the assebly balanced.
I wish i had a dead tii lying around. Im dying to switch out my drivetrain.
I wish i had a dead tii lying around. Im dying to switch out my drivetrain.
Trending Topics
04-24-03, 05:26 PM
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Tampa, Fl
Posts: 387
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I think the flywheels differ in size. i dont know the exact difference but i know when you buy a clutch the TIIs is a differnet part # than the NA. Usually the 83-88 NA clutches are grouped together and then the TIIs are grouped together.
Last edited by Bebesito21; 04-24-03 at 05:32 PM.
04-24-03, 05:30 PM
#13
FC Mobsta
Originally posted by silverrotor
How are the TII Flywheels different as opposed to na, besides the counterweight? ie. s4.
How are the TII Flywheels different as opposed to na, besides the counterweight? ie. s4.
Last edited by marcus219; 04-24-03 at 05:35 PM.
04-24-03, 05:32 PM
#14
FC Mobsta
i forgot that its the eccentric shaft thats being counterbalenced 
04-24-03, 07:18 PM
#16
Originally posted by marcus219
Did my post just get looked over, or am I reading yours wrong..all s4 counterweights are the same.
Did my post just get looked over, or am I reading yours wrong..all s4 counterweights are the same.
Yes, the counterweights are same. That resolves that. But what are the physical differences within the 2 Flywheels? So It won't work, eh?
I might do a TII swap and want to findout If I can still use my RB Aluminum Flywheel.
04-24-03, 08:07 PM
#17
FC Mobsta
Back to normal now, ahh..thank God.
If you have a n/a motor..and a TII drivetrain, you need to use the TII flywheel, if the RB flywheel is for a n/a, my assumption is it wont work, you need a flywheel for a TII to work with the TII trans.
If you have a n/a motor..and a TII drivetrain, you need to use the TII flywheel, if the RB flywheel is for a n/a, my assumption is it wont work, you need a flywheel for a TII to work with the TII trans.
Last edited by marcus219; 04-24-03 at 08:11 PM.
11-09-03, 07:02 PM
#20
Full Member
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Westerville, Ohio
Posts: 212
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Okay, so let me get this strait then...
I have heard some ppl say that the GXL is the same as an "N/A TII". how true is this?
I have an '86 GXL (last year before the TII was produced) and an '87 TII engine and tranny. I need to know if I am going to have to find a TII drivshaft, differentail, and half shafts for this car or not.
Anyone able to help me out here?
Thanks
Miles
I have heard some ppl say that the GXL is the same as an "N/A TII". how true is this?
I have an '86 GXL (last year before the TII was produced) and an '87 TII engine and tranny. I need to know if I am going to have to find a TII drivshaft, differentail, and half shafts for this car or not.
Anyone able to help me out here?
Thanks
Miles
11-09-03, 07:08 PM
#21
The turbo2 uses a completely different tranny (Type-R baby 
) Driveshaft, rear end and axles than the GXL. If you are swapping in the T2 engine and tranny, it is advisable to get the T2 driveshaft and rear end(with axles) also. You can use the N/A rear end, but it would require you to get a custom driveshaft made, as the N/A and T2 driveshafts are not the same length, and dont have the same bolting locations on the rear end (meaning the T2 driveshaft will not bolt to the pinion flange of an N/A rear end )
) Driveshaft, rear end and axles than the GXL. If you are swapping in the T2 engine and tranny, it is advisable to get the T2 driveshaft and rear end(with axles) also. You can use the N/A rear end, but it would require you to get a custom driveshaft made, as the N/A and T2 driveshafts are not the same length, and dont have the same bolting locations on the rear end (meaning the T2 driveshaft will not bolt to the pinion flange of an N/A rear end )
11-09-03, 07:13 PM
#22
mad scientist
TII's have larger diameter flywheels and clutches. Also, the input shaft on the transmission is different. Put simply, Everything from(but not including) the engine to the hubs is different between TII and n/a.
11-09-03, 11:56 PM
#23
Full Member
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Westerville, Ohio
Posts: 212
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by Rxmfn7
The turbo2 uses a completely different tranny (Type-R baby ) Driveshaft, rear end and axles than the GXL. If you are swapping in the T2 engine and tranny, it is advisable to get the T2 driveshaft and rear end(with axles) also. You can use the N/A rear end, but it would require you to get a custom driveshaft made, as the N/A and T2 driveshafts are not the same length, and dont have the same bolting locations on the rear end (meaning the T2 driveshaft will not bolt to the pinion flange of an N/A rear end )
The turbo2 uses a completely different tranny (Type-R baby
) Driveshaft, rear end and axles than the GXL. If you are swapping in the T2 engine and tranny, it is advisable to get the T2 driveshaft and rear end(with axles) also. You can use the N/A rear end, but it would require you to get a custom driveshaft made, as the N/A and T2 driveshafts are not the same length, and dont have the same bolting locations on the rear end (meaning the T2 driveshaft will not bolt to the pinion flange of an N/A rear end )
like I said before, I already have the engine and tranny, and I know it's just not that simple (hence my questions)
All information/help is greatly appreciated.
11-10-03, 12:24 AM
#24
I"m doing something similar. I am doing a TII swap and want to keep my 88 GTU rear end. I've herd a NA Auto drive shaft has the correct bolt configuratin but will BARELY fit in. I think it has to be lengthened like 2 inches. I'll find out in a couple weeks.
11-10-03, 12:08 PM
#25
Full Member
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Westerville, Ohio
Posts: 212
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
kewl. I saw your other post too. Looks like we should keep intouch, as we both seem to be on the same type of project at the same time. I know everyone likes to help out when they can, but sometimes it just seems like we don't have time to go back into our own archives to help someone reach what we already have, so those guys that just started end up having to fend for themselves anyway. (although, a few ppl on here have been VERY nice about answering my questions from their own expiriences *thanks*)