Logitikes

I wanted to know how the brake bias became. I have a 1989 t2 and im looking to remove my abs. Ive done some research and came to two ways of doing it and i wanted to know how it worked out for you guys. First way is the simplest, mazdatrix abs delete kit. To be honest, it doesnt look the best but im sure there are ways to make it look clean in the bay, but thats not my concern. I really wanted to know if the kit is going to ruin my brake bias, it just doesnt seem like a proper way of doing the job. The second is following this tutorial (https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-gen-arch...emoval-938203/) I have to buy 3 brake lines (which im not even sure if they still have them in stock) and buy a double banjo bolt and some how put everything together... but still at the end he said his brake bias was too strong in the back. Anyways, i would appreciate some more info on this subject!

eage8

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I just bought the lines semi recently and they still had them (less than 2 years ago).

The bias won't change because of the lines.

misterstyx69

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If you plan on this..LMK.
I am saying this as I may part that car that I have..(up in Cdn section) and IF I do,I'll hopefully get sales for the GTA..(plans are get some sales and deliver a bunch of stuff,at once)
I can take the lines off that you need..before I scrap the body.

clokker

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You can get generic, preflared brake lines at most big box auto stores for dirt cheap, you just have to bend them.

Logitikes

But has anyone had experience with the abs removal kit? Umm sorry mystery but if im gonna change the lines i think im going with new ones.

No_love_for_pistons

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Check out the thread in my sig. I just did this a few years ago. I used that same thread you linked to as a guide, but thought I'd add more information (and pics!) to help others. If you don't feel comfortable bending your own lines, just replace with the Mazda ones. I haven't experienced any noticeable bias and it brakes just fine.

texFCturboII

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Ive used the mazdatrix kit before. There was a change in the bias, I had to do a few emergency stops in the car that I had used the kit on and it definitely pulled the nose in one direction under hard braking. I can't remember for sure which direction, that was 5 years ago... but I want to say left.

D Physics

What is the purpose of removing the ABS?

texFCturboII

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These ABS pumps are prone to leak like a sieve after 20+ years, getting brake fluid all over your engine bay. A new one costs more than what some people paid for the car and currently there is no rebuild kit. They also weigh quite a bit, lending an argument to weight reduction.

-RotorDemon-

1. It sucks.
2. It develops a leak and is expensive as all hell to replace.
3. It really sucks.

I removed mine but my dilemma is that I have more bias in the rear. It's not terrible but I can't go hard into a corner and if I need to brake during a turn it makes the *** end very loose.

D Physics

Gotca! Enough said. Only had my FC for about a year (plan on selling it)...no crazy problems so far

JerryLH3

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For those that may be interested, the OEM Mazda brake lines mentioned in the two threads are still available. I ordered them today. The prices are a little higher than they were, but based on the nearest dealer to my house, they will be here tomorrow.

Logitikes

nice, good to know that theres still some stock left on these.

JerryLH3

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Further FYI, it looks like the rear line in Mazda's warehouses is still for RHD cars. It definitely does not line up as it came from Mazda. There is one extra bend in it that makes it face the wrong direction. I have a pretty good relationship with my dealer, I'm going to see if they can maybe call and ask someone about this. It has the correct part number on it, but it looks like somehow they started shipping over RHD versions. This for part # FB01-45-360C.

No_love_for_pistons

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Did you read through my thread (see sig)? I address the issue there. Mine was a RHD line as well, but you can still make it work with no bending.

JerryLH3

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Your thread was one of the ones I consulted. I'll post pictures, but there is no way for mine to work without a complete 90 degree bend. It didn't even seem all that similar to yours.

FB_rad

Just find a junked fc and grab the line. I would keep the t2 abs power booster and master. The booster is a double diaphragm. Better for braking power...

FC3S driver

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So to chime in on this topic as I'm about to delete a abs unit for the 2nd time on a turbo model. All I did was go buy some straight brake line, a bend tool and a flair tool. I also bought 3 brake line adapters to connect the new line to the old. I cut the original front lines right by the shock towers and the rear line as it goes down the tranny tunnel. Now I should note I did this while I had the engine out of the car so it was a little easier to install. I used the the stock turbo mc and brake booster that was originally in there. When bending the lines I just tried my best run them where the stock non abs lines would have been until I reached the original line and then connected them together. I did this back in 2004 and my brother now has the car and still daily drives it. He has tracked it numerous times (drift and road course) and never had any issues with the brakes. Brake bias seems to be fine as I never had issues and haven't heard him say anything either. The only thing that I am going to different this time on the turbo model I have now is I am going to try and route the lines all the way to the front calipers instead of cutting and adapting them to the old.

This is just my experience