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jimmydanny 01-14-11 01:45 PM

Well, that leads to somewhere obviously? Calm down and explain that instead.

If I don't have voltage at the light, which I can't obviously, since it doesn't work, I must check elsewhere in that circuit.

EDIT: Why is the glove box light linked to that switch? Does that make sense? Nope. But it still is. Does that make the headlight switch a less likely place to connect the spot? Nope.

satch 01-14-11 01:47 PM

Again, the only two wires involved are the power wire which is constant voltage and that would be the Blue/Red wire and the other wire is Green/White which is the ground source.

I made a mistake by saying the G/W wire is the ground for the spot light as the G/W wire is the ground for the door lock cylinder in addition to the ignition key cylinder. The ground for the spot light is Blue/White "if" the light comes on when the door is open otherwise the ground is provided by the body of the car.

jimmydanny 01-14-11 01:53 PM

That I know. I tested ground straight to the CD player as well, as that works.

So somewhere between the light and the room(?) fuse, I got something not working.

I guess the wire goes down the driver side A pillar and down to the fuse box, probably connecting to the rest of the stuff on the room fuse on the way

EDIT: As my time is running out for today, I will try 12V straight from the CD player to the light, and see what happens then. If that works, I know the 12V wire to the light is broken or something.

satch 01-14-11 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by jimmydanny (Post 10414895)
Well, that leads to somewhere obviously? Calm down and explain that instead.

If I don't have voltage at the light, which I can't obviously, since it doesn't work, I must check elsewhere in that circuit

The reason that the light does not work could be threefold. One example would be the voltage wire, in this case the Blue/Red wire is w/o power. Second example would be the voltage wire is okay but the ground wire is problematic. Third example would be both the power and ground wire are problematic. And this does not take into account the spot light switch might be problematic instead of the power and ground wire involved itself.

The interior spot light works off of the Room fuse and the Room fuse is found in the interior fuse box which has two wires connected to it such that one wire powers the fuse and the other wire takes the voltage running through the fuse and delivers it to the proper circuits necessary. The Blue/Red wire comes from the Room fuse and travels up the A pillar to the roof level where it meanders to the spot light.

Just because the light does not work dos not mean it is w/o power. If you were to check for voltage on the Blue/Red wire "at" the spot light itself it would tell you the situation at hand. If you had a lamp by your bed, well that lamp socket has two wires running to it, where one wire is the voltage wire and the other wire is the ground. If you removed the ground wire from said socket then the light will not work even though the voltage wire is okay.

satch 01-14-11 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by jimmydanny (Post 10414895)
Well, that leads to somewhere obviously? Calm down and explain that instead.

If I don't have voltage at the light, which I can't obviously, since it doesn't work, I must check elsewhere in that circuit.

EDIT: Why is the glove box light linked to that switch? Does that make sense? Nope. But it still is. Does that make the headlight switch a less likely place to connect the spot? Nope.

The Room fuse is 7.5 amps while the Illumination fuse is 15 amps. If you take a circuit which only requires 7.5 amps but instead connect it to a fuse which provides for more amps such as 15 amps then it might overload the lights within that particular circuit.

Have you attempted to check for voltage on the Blue/Red wire at the spot light yet? Sometimes it's best to go straight to the horse's mouth instead of assuming the Blue/Red wire is powerless at the spot light.

jimmydanny 01-14-11 02:36 PM

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The fuses that was blown was my own fault, not linked to the issues I got.

But PICS!

These two "plugs" were loose inside the mirror/light box. Where do these go? Into the blind rivets way to the side, or the metal circles closer to the middle?

EDIT: It seems that they go to the middle ones, but I dont wanna short another fuse, they cost enough for me to get broke on, if I continue like the last days. ^^,

jimmydanny 01-14-11 03:42 PM

Wtf is that metal? Impossible to solder

HAILERS2 01-14-11 05:29 PM

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HAILERS2 01-14-11 05:38 PM

You say when you turn the floodlight on the glove box light lights up. Right? Have you notice any other lights lighting up when you do that????? Do that. Make the glove box light up using the spotlight switch and then go look at your side lights on the exterior and see if they are also lighting up .......or not. Or does anyother light light up other than the glove box light???? Think about it a bit.

Some of this might be cause by a bungled up aftermarket radio installation. LIke the spot light backfeeding into a circuit that in stk config is not connected to the Room fuse but is now that the radio install has been bungled.

jimmydanny 01-14-11 08:54 PM

I got it working, as the bulb socket wires weren't connected. But it stopped working again, think it might be some short circuit, gotta go check tomorrow after work

jimmydanny 01-14-11 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by satch (Post 10414933)
If you had a lamp by your bed, well that lamp socket has two wires running to it, where one wire is the voltage wire and the other wire is the ground. If you removed the ground wire from said socket then the light will not work even though the voltage wire is okay.

I can't let this go. There is no ground to that lamp, because it is AC :)

Well, some lamps may have ground AS WELL, but it would still work without :)

satch 01-15-11 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by jimmydanny (Post 10415645)
I can't let this go. There is no ground to that lamp, because it is AC :)

Well, some lamps may have ground AS WELL, but it would still work without :)

The lamp was a poor example obviously, but speaking of lamps, your's is dusty as can be and covered in muck!

Perhaps there is a cold solder related to the work performed recently on the spot light.

jimmydanny 01-15-11 04:36 PM

Hadn't done any work yet, I cleaned it and tried soldering, but it wouldn't stick no matter what I did, so I cheated a bit and put wire around the bulb terminals/holders, and soldered those to the wires from the switch. But one of those shorted, so gotta fix it again.

HAILERS2 01-15-11 07:44 PM

Interior and spot lights get their ground from the chassis (not talking about the open the door mode). The physical connection of the spot light assy to the metal roof is the ground for the lights (when not in the open the door mode). See diagrams in the post above.

jimmydanny 01-15-11 10:14 PM

I know, as I said, I got it working, but there is a short circuit somewhere as it stopped working without reason


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