FrankV702

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try finding that guy that was selling his for 750 SHIPPED!! that was a awesome deal. if he still has it.. ill buy it. id recommend trying to find that though to see if he has it still.. thatt was a killer deal.. its a kit made for a FC and included everything to bolt it up..

anewconvert

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It was sold.


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FrankV702

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ooh.. that was a awesome deal on that supercharger.. im surprised it to so long to sell..

Sideways7

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Basically, to sum up previous posts, there is one good kit made by camden, and it is very expensive. You can do a complete turbo swap for a good bit less money and have way more room for growth. The people pricing out the setups using a custom setup forgot to mention that there is a whole lot of custom fabrication that goes into getting them to work. As Aaron said, nearly all of these projects end up abandoned.

StarScreaM2k1

Well you have to keep inmind of a few things:

Your gonna have to do some work either way (if you go turbo or SC). On an NA once you add boost you still have to do the supporting mods. The only difference is HOW to boost is achieved. You still have to have the mods to support that boost. Keep that inmind.

Both superchargers and turbos both have their own pro's and con's. In a nutshell, SC's have a linear powerband for boost (as RPM's increase so does boost, and it also comes on at a earlier RPM). However they are not as common on a FC, maybe a bitch to get support or parts. Turbo's dont exactly have a linear powerband for boost, there are WAY more turbo fcs so support and parts you can find easily, and IMO theres more options with a turbo since we can choose from a bigger variety of turbos, twin setup, singe, sequential (however unlikey it is).

Is there any particular reason for going SC rather then Turbo? If your just looking for more power i would recommend going turbo just because of the support, availibility of parts, the options you have and all that.

I understand alot of people want to be different and hence they want to do something out of the box sorta speak, however, just make sure your not getting in over your head sorta speak.

MrGreek

thanks for the feedback

Twofer

A centrifugal blower will have more lag than a normal supercharger, but about |---| much. It is of course dependent on the engine RPM, but that's how superchargers work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmi8GDByXjs

Let it load in the background then fast forward to 2:33, where the real action begins. Watch the boost gauge, as soon as he steps on it, the gauge goes from vacuum to 10 psi of boost, then up to 20 as the RPM increases.

And procharger's website... http://www.procharger.com/

I haven't researched Paxton or Vortech super chargers, so I don't know if they have problems. I did however watch a old muscle car with a Vortech S/C get dynoed. It was like standing in an earthquake.

papiogxl

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Yeah, I know my buddy has a vortech'd 01 GT, it's lag isn't near a turbo, but not as instant as a roots/screw.

Twofer

Well the CSC has the added benefit of an intercooler but does lose some response with the IC and piping. Roots / Screw blowers typically replace your intake manifold and bolt directly (or close) to the block. However they're not as efficient running a low RPM, and they have more parasitic load.

I remember a show that had the Merc SLK, or some similar car, with a SC which they said took 100 hp just to run.

CSC = Belt driven, geared, turbocharger. It has the efficiency and high power capability of a turbo, without the lag. The downsides are cost, and lack of a bolt on kit.

fc3sna

i was talking about sc's that where made for the fc.

coulby

The reason you get the supercharger is not price, its for instant boost that is suitable for autocrossing. In the long run, to get big power out of them costs more money (as everyone has pointed out) then a turbo. I am actually taking a TII motor and putting the supercharger on it. That way, in the future, if I want to have a supercharged turbo motor, its possible.

The other reason you get a supercharger is to be different. That in and of itself is a double edge sword. You are different, that's great, but the parts out there for it, along with the experience with them are limited.

I wanted to be different, and I like the whine from the blower.