slaping a turbo on 89 gxl
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slaping a turbo on 89 gxl
IKNOW IM GOING TO HEAR IT FOR EVER..
ok here is the deal i got an 89 gxl i know for fact the compresion isnt all up to par. so taking this in mind i got a friend delling the turbo and manifold from his tII and scince i dont have the compresion i once used to have i though i might have a shot at making my car a bit faster till moter goes . i know i have to upgrade the injectors put a better fuel pump planing on using my safc to control the fuel . i know the n/a drive shaft is weaker but scince i had to have someone make one for me . we used a tII dirveshaft and welded the tip of the n/a drive shatf that conects to the differential as far as diferencial holding up (thats yet to be discovered)
so with all those in mind...
do you think its possible????
i dont have the $ flow to buy a tII right now so thats out of the ?
so now let the ratning beging
after all all im looking for is a bit more power from the old yeller engine
and i think im taking in consideration everything. if i left anything out please advise me on some...
thanks
ok here is the deal i got an 89 gxl i know for fact the compresion isnt all up to par. so taking this in mind i got a friend delling the turbo and manifold from his tII and scince i dont have the compresion i once used to have i though i might have a shot at making my car a bit faster till moter goes . i know i have to upgrade the injectors put a better fuel pump planing on using my safc to control the fuel . i know the n/a drive shaft is weaker but scince i had to have someone make one for me . we used a tII dirveshaft and welded the tip of the n/a drive shatf that conects to the differential as far as diferencial holding up (thats yet to be discovered)
so with all those in mind...
do you think its possible????
i dont have the $ flow to buy a tII right now so thats out of the ?
so now let the ratning beging
after all all im looking for is a bit more power from the old yeller engine
and i think im taking in consideration everything. if i left anything out please advise me on some...
thanks
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no way man you think your compression is low so you want to go turbo..... if that is so you realy don't want to go turbo... unless you are trying to blow up this motor and as for the drivetrain tranny wont handle it diff wont handle it and those yokes and u-joints you welded in they wont handle it,,,,,,save your money for a conversion or t2.
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i think you should try it i turbod my gxl and had no problems with it its been running great for about 6-7 months but my compression was good but try any way who cares. All my drive train parts are still stock i didnt change anything
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Originally posted by Vkdagreek
i think you should try it i turbod my gxl and had no problems with it its been running great for about 6-7 months but my compression was good but try any way who cares. All my drive train parts are still stock i didnt change anything
i think you should try it i turbod my gxl and had no problems with it its been running great for about 6-7 months but my compression was good but try any way who cares. All my drive train parts are still stock i didnt change anything
Did you swap the entire engine?
Or did you swip the parts off a TII?
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hehe
i kinda of lied my compresion is really ok not that bad hehe but i just kind of want to find out how a 6 port engine will run with a tII turbo..
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i have
i have used the search buttun thing and thats why im asking because every time some one asks this question everyone just totaly ignores it and say something stupid like buy a tII or some crap like that
then you get someone ask what would it take to make my n/a do 500hp andf every one just replies just port the **** out of it
so every time you going to see something new you guys are going to say no dont do it because it goes against human nature and therefoer u should do it
i bet half the people saying dont do it arent really speaking from experience .
i would much rather see a post saying something like its going to be a bit hard but if u are going to do this i would suggest keep this in mind or give an oppiniion.
sorry just my thoughts
whats the matter TII owners scared that a lil N/A with slaped turbo going to kick u r ****???
i thought it was all for the love of the rx7
and if someone didnt try something new i bet half of you wouldnt even know what a bridgeport street port would be.
ok now can i still be your friends???
heheh
then you get someone ask what would it take to make my n/a do 500hp andf every one just replies just port the **** out of it
so every time you going to see something new you guys are going to say no dont do it because it goes against human nature and therefoer u should do it
i bet half the people saying dont do it arent really speaking from experience .
i would much rather see a post saying something like its going to be a bit hard but if u are going to do this i would suggest keep this in mind or give an oppiniion.
sorry just my thoughts
whats the matter TII owners scared that a lil N/A with slaped turbo going to kick u r ****???
i thought it was all for the love of the rx7
and if someone didnt try something new i bet half of you wouldnt even know what a bridgeport street port would be.
ok now can i still be your friends???
heheh
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Re: i have
Originally posted by prmazdarx7
whats the matter TII owners scared that a lil N/A with slaped turbo going to kick u r ****??
whats the matter TII owners scared that a lil N/A with slaped turbo going to kick u r ****??
You can't just slap on a turbo and a bigger fuel pump. The NA ECU won't safely run an engine with a turbo (it'll run way too lean), so you'll need a TII ECU which means you'll need the engine harness, etc, etc. Or you'll need an interceptor, bigger injectors, blah, blah...
Is it possible? Anything's possible.
Will the end result be worth it. Doubtful.
If you can't afford to do it properly, it may well end in tears. I've heard 6-port motors take really well to turbos (for the same reason V-TEC motors do), but these were motors purpose built for turbocharging.
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You shouldnt need a TII ECU.. You will need a better fuel pump and larger injectors.. and then you'd need to tune that with a fuel controller. You'd need gauges to tune it (A/F and/or EGT, I recommend both). You'll also want to retard the timing a bit.. I'm doing the same thing this summer.. I just bought a turbo, ic, and manifold. It can work.. And you will be faster than even lightly modded TII's... You just have to tune it right.. I dunno from experience, but I'm willing to bet the N/A tranny will hold at least 230-250 rwhp with no prob. But you probably will break halfshafts and U-joints. It wont be cheap, but it'll be cheaper than buying a modding a TII. I'm turboing mine cause I already have all the mods that make a car feel good done.. And to buy a TII and even get it up to par with my car would cost at least $6-7k. And my car is just about as fast as a stock series 4 TII anyway. I say go for it
Originally posted by NZConvertible
Um... no, why would we be?
You can't just slap on a turbo and a bigger fuel pump. The NA ECU won't safely run an engine with a turbo (it'll run way too lean), so you'll need a TII ECU which means you'll need the engine harness, etc, etc. Or you'll need an interceptor, bigger injectors, blah, blah...
Is it possible? Anything's possible.
Will the end result be worth it. Doubtful.
If you can't afford to do it properly, it may well end in tears. I've heard 6-port motors take really well to turbos (for the same reason V-TEC motors do), but these were motors purpose built for turbocharging.
Um... no, why would we be?
You can't just slap on a turbo and a bigger fuel pump. The NA ECU won't safely run an engine with a turbo (it'll run way too lean), so you'll need a TII ECU which means you'll need the engine harness, etc, etc. Or you'll need an interceptor, bigger injectors, blah, blah...
Is it possible? Anything's possible.
Will the end result be worth it. Doubtful.
If you can't afford to do it properly, it may well end in tears. I've heard 6-port motors take really well to turbos (for the same reason V-TEC motors do), but these were motors purpose built for turbocharging.
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now we are cooking
and i was planing on using the TII injectors TII pump and safc to control the fuel injectors
i know there will be some problems i might run into but hey just takle one at a time.
so keep em comming
i know i need intercooler
now the spacer that was mentioned about for the turbo to clear anyone got specs on that or were to buy one if not not problem i could prolly make one.im one of those that think that with the right tools, a torch and welding machine you could do wonders
i know there will be some problems i might run into but hey just takle one at a time.
so keep em comming
i know i need intercooler
now the spacer that was mentioned about for the turbo to clear anyone got specs on that or were to buy one if not not problem i could prolly make one.im one of those that think that with the right tools, a torch and welding machine you could do wonders
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Re: now we are cooking
As for the adapter.. All it is is engine to header flanges from Racing Beat, and 2 2" diameter pipes exactly 2.5" long..And as for the intercooler... get a stock TII intercooler.. they sell for $50.. Maybe a junkyard intercooler if you feel like finding one..
Originally posted by prmazdarx7
and i was planing on using the TII injectors TII pump and safc to control the fuel injectors
i know there will be some problems i might run into but hey just takle one at a time.
so keep em comming
i know i need intercooler
now the spacer that was mentioned about for the turbo to clear anyone got specs on that or were to buy one if not not problem i could prolly make one.im one of those that think that with the right tools, a torch and welding machine you could do wonders
and i was planing on using the TII injectors TII pump and safc to control the fuel injectors
i know there will be some problems i might run into but hey just takle one at a time.
so keep em comming
i know i need intercooler
now the spacer that was mentioned about for the turbo to clear anyone got specs on that or were to buy one if not not problem i could prolly make one.im one of those that think that with the right tools, a torch and welding machine you could do wonders
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Re: Re: now we are cooking
Originally posted by Drakk0r
And as for the intercooler... get a stock TII intercooler.. they sell for $50.. Maybe a junkyard intercooler if you feel like finding one..
And as for the intercooler... get a stock TII intercooler.. they sell for $50.. Maybe a junkyard intercooler if you feel like finding one..
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Hey all.
I am at this moment gathering up all the necessary items to do the NA conversion to TII. I have purchased a TII motor/transmission complete with wiring harness. I am going to rebuild it and put it into my GXL. I want all the luxury plus the power
I think that the moderators should think about making a seperate area for the NA folks that want to do this conversion as there are WAY TOO many threads to look for when wanting info about the procedure.
I know it is going to be a hassle but it also will be a learning experience and I for one am always more satisfied with putting together something myself instead of buying a complete car that needs nothing.(no fun there)
The fun is in the challenge and the final result!
I am at this moment gathering up all the necessary items to do the NA conversion to TII. I have purchased a TII motor/transmission complete with wiring harness. I am going to rebuild it and put it into my GXL. I want all the luxury plus the power
I think that the moderators should think about making a seperate area for the NA folks that want to do this conversion as there are WAY TOO many threads to look for when wanting info about the procedure.
I know it is going to be a hassle but it also will be a learning experience and I for one am always more satisfied with putting together something myself instead of buying a complete car that needs nothing.(no fun there)
The fun is in the challenge and the final result!
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ive allready owned
89 +tII
2 gsl 1983
1 gslse
1 gxl 89
1gxl 91 acording to the door
so ive see most of them i want to turbo the n/a engine not swap the engine from a tII to an n/a car
you see once i do it you going to say dayyyyyaammmm'
2 gsl 1983
1 gslse
1 gxl 89
1gxl 91 acording to the door
so ive see most of them i want to turbo the n/a engine not swap the engine from a tII to an n/a car
you see once i do it you going to say dayyyyyaammmm'
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this baby will toats ya
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1989 MAZDA RX7, cust. turbo GTU, red, 5spd, rebuilt eng w/mild street port, T60-1 turbo, blow off valve, wastegate, cust. header, turbo pumbing, much more, $6000 obo, there is much more than 6K invested in this car, 512-771-4255.
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hey i say you try the turbo on the na motor i did it and it was great you dont need to change your ecu or any thing like that just go bigger pump and injectors i even got an fmu on my car just to be safe also the s-afc.
the whole job took me about 3-4 days working acouple of hours a day and alot of guys told me my motor would blow so right after i installed the kit i took the car for a test drive all the way to the nopi nationals and im from jersey 2000 miles round trip and it was boostin 7-9 pounds the whole way!
the whole job took me about 3-4 days working acouple of hours a day and alot of guys told me my motor would blow so right after i installed the kit i took the car for a test drive all the way to the nopi nationals and im from jersey 2000 miles round trip and it was boostin 7-9 pounds the whole way!
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Re: Re: Re: now we are cooking
You can use the stock intercooler as a front mount.. I plan on mounting my stock TII intercooler in the front bumper before the radiator at a 45 degree angle. You can also get a junkyard intercooler from some misc turbo car and use it as a front mount.. The only advantage to get a kit is if you dont feel like doing costom piping.. Otherwise you could make your own kit much cheaper.. And if you absolutely have to have new parts, get a Spearco Intercooler and do your own piping. They have all sorts of types and sizes. But hey, its your money
Originally posted by AcmeSkater
good idea if ur gonna put a TII hood on it but a FMIC w/ a stock front would be mostly hidden and would look like a N/A any un suspecting(sp) TII peps might fall victim to it. All u have to do is convince them the wistling sound is a leaky air hose... hehehe. Im going to buy the GReddy kit and go from there. But there should be a lot of work in this.
good idea if ur gonna put a TII hood on it but a FMIC w/ a stock front would be mostly hidden and would look like a N/A any un suspecting(sp) TII peps might fall victim to it. All u have to do is convince them the wistling sound is a leaky air hose... hehehe. Im going to buy the GReddy kit and go from there. But there should be a lot of work in this.
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Yeah, the people who say turbo N/A's will blow up instantly are ignorant. I know some drag racers that run 9.4 rotors in tII housings running insane boost. All it takes is tuning.... 9.4:1 compression ratio just makes tuning less forgiving...
Originally posted by Vkdagreek
hey i say you try the turbo on the na motor i did it and it was great you dont need to change your ecu or any thing like that just go bigger pump and injectors i even got an fmu on my car just to be safe also the s-afc.
the whole job took me about 3-4 days working acouple of hours a day and alot of guys told me my motor would blow so right after i installed the kit i took the car for a test drive all the way to the nopi nationals and im from jersey 2000 miles round trip and it was boostin 7-9 pounds the whole way!
hey i say you try the turbo on the na motor i did it and it was great you dont need to change your ecu or any thing like that just go bigger pump and injectors i even got an fmu on my car just to be safe also the s-afc.
the whole job took me about 3-4 days working acouple of hours a day and alot of guys told me my motor would blow so right after i installed the kit i took the car for a test drive all the way to the nopi nationals and im from jersey 2000 miles round trip and it was boostin 7-9 pounds the whole way!
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I used to run 10-12psi daily on mine, so its no big deal,
hell I never even bothered putting in the bigger injectors
that I had.
All I used was the SAFC and a Cartech FMU.
hell I never even bothered putting in the bigger injectors
that I had.
All I used was the SAFC and a Cartech FMU.
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another turboed N/A here =)
running on T04 @ 8psi
hks fcon
TII primaries
secondaries flowing at 700
fmic
not too sure about ecu.. n/a or TII.. and too lazy to find out for now
greddy bov
TII fuel pump
custom exhaust (all emissions gone)
previous owner said there was mild streetporting done to the car when it was rebuilt but i dunno....
and some other stuff
The car works very nicely
BUT there is a slight hesitation/choking at 4500rpm to 5200 rpm (gonna fix that up soon)
after that.. the car pulls very nicely up to 7300
but i hate my tranny... quite a bit.. hehehe
running on T04 @ 8psi
hks fcon
TII primaries
secondaries flowing at 700
fmic
not too sure about ecu.. n/a or TII.. and too lazy to find out for now
greddy bov
TII fuel pump
custom exhaust (all emissions gone)
previous owner said there was mild streetporting done to the car when it was rebuilt but i dunno....
and some other stuff
The car works very nicely
BUT there is a slight hesitation/choking at 4500rpm to 5200 rpm (gonna fix that up soon)
after that.. the car pulls very nicely up to 7300
but i hate my tranny... quite a bit.. hehehe