GT34

Are there many 10ae owners that frequent here. I'm looking into getting one. I wanna hear what some of your feedback on the car would be. I know these cars are rare, and I also wanted to know if parts for the car are hard to come by like the mazda 323 gtx made in the same year. Are they built the same as the TII's besides the appearance? My brother's gotta gtx and he waited a month to get a set of spindles from the states when he chewed through a bearing. Mazda changed a lot of things on the gtx from the normal 323. Thanks.

jgrts20

yea but the 323 gtx doesnt use a rotary. big differance

vhold

The 323 is a cool little car, but the TII is a whole different beast. Much, much quicker, even bone stock. But the 323 GTX will be much more useful in bad weather, especially snow. A TII with good tires will be fine in the rain, but in the snow, it's pretty much useless.

The AE is mostly just a normal TII with a somewhat nicer interior, all the luxury options, and a very distinctive exterior scheme. The bronze tint on the glass is very subtle and looks great with the white paint, but mechanically the car is identical to a standard Turbo II.

13b4me

Search "10AE" in this section, and you'll find a few threads about them with some useful info...

GT34

Yeah I was trying to relate the 2 because they were both limited production cars but they changed a whole whack of stuff on the gtx. You'll be lucky if you can find any replacable parts that don't incude the interior. But I'm happy to know that only the appearance is the only thing different from the TII's

rotorforce

As rare as they are there seems to be many of them out there (10th AE). You always find them for sale on the forum, ebay, autotrader....

GloryDays

really if youve seen one youve seen em all. most ppl dont change the exterior much to keep the authenticity. just photoshop whatever wheels you wanna se on it and there you go.

13b4me

Not necessarily... Wheels and stance can go a long way for a car... Wait until you see mine...

tinvestor

Word of advice. If the paint code on the firewall VIN plate under the hood is not "UC" then it is a fake!! This is the reason you see so many because at least half of them are fakes.

unW7WZ

the only way to truely know is the vin number (and of course the fact that they all came white (UC? lemme check mine, i think thats right but not sure... I checked the vins, and its definitely not a fake....). Some had ABS, but ALL of them came white...bronze tint can easily have been removed due to accidents etc, as well as other things (rims, floor mats...unfortunately iu dont have teh floor mats :-\ ). Also the white paint peels faster, so a LOT of people had theirs repainted, some diff colors than stock.

tinvestor

NONE had ABS. ABS was not an option on this car in FSM it lists all options and that (surprisingly) is not available. The VIN itself can only tell you that it was made within the correct time frame. The VIN's are non sequential. There is nothing in the VIN that indicates model. There is only the one way to tell. Everything else can be faked or transplanted. Dont get me wrong the ID tag under the hood can be faked also but very few people will go this far.

Here is the vin breakdown
JM1FC331*JO******
JM1= mazda
FC =if I need to explain this we are in trouble.
33 = COUPE or 35 = CONVERTIBLE
1 = TURBO or 2 = NA
* = this is a digit compilied through the VIN using a formula to validate authenticity to police
J =88 model year G is 86 and H is 87
O = hiroshima production facility
****** this is your 6 digit serial #

If you learn all of these meanings and memorize your serial and check digits you can always remember your VIN

As you can see nothing in the VIN corresponds to model type. If you have ever been in an accident you probably know this but Insuranc companies often ask to see the car as proof that it is a "GXL" "10th AE" "GTU" etc.


Here is the list of "options" in quotes because there was very little optional about any of it.

always turbo
never automatic
always coupe
always sunroof sometimes Glass (truly an option)
always 2 seater only (of course people paid the dealer to swap some interior parts around)
always limited slip
never ABS
never AAS or Normal suspension always Hard

Made only from 2/88-12/88

unW7WZ

hmm, i read on another thread that there was a range, but nothing about the sequentiality (i know thats not a word, but it fits...). So lets say i had all of those things, could it not still be faked? I was always sure that I had one, it was definitely beat to hell by previous owners, and I don't plan on every getting rid of it because it is the love of my life (lol). The title for the car says "Rx-7 TurboII" nothing about tenth anniv anywhere, is that an indication? Or is there any TRUE way of knowing? I will say, I am almost sure it is, no one in their right mind would wanna fake something like that on this car, because of its condition, but ya never know.... Can you tell me (threadjack, but may also be useful to the thread starter) any tried and true method for identification of a True to life 10AE? Aside from just listing the features, and me checking it? Like calling a dealership and verifying the VIN or something to that nature?

Are you sure its a 1 for tII and 2 for NA? On my title it says its a t2, and my vin says "...3321J0...". Is this an indication that its not even a true t2? Am I completely fucked?

tinvestor

Dont know that a dealership could tell you. Again the only true way is to check that plate for the paint code take a pic of another one from another 7 and compare to make sure plate is not forged, look at all the details the painted black areas and the letter styles. also pay close attention to make sure the aluminum in the area of the paint code is not distorted, make sure the rivets are approximately the same size on both and that the plate sits flush,make sure your VIN on the firewall directly above matches the plate and obviously the VIN on the dash. Dont be sure about people not faking it because it may have been someone that sold the car in 91 trying to get more for it.

tinvestor

Sorry All My Bad It Is

2 For Turbo
1 For Na

vhold

Mine looks a little different from stock, it has 89+ mirrors for one thing. One of the mirrors got trashed and I replaced them with the later ones, they have a much better view to the rear than the S4 versions. I still have the stock white wheels, but only until my Enkei RPF1's show up. Other than that I want to keep it stock-looking though, no aero kits for me.

I don't think a fake AE would be worth the effort, the cost of making a standard TII look like an AE would be greater than the difference in resale price. The paint and badges would be easy enough to fake, even the steering wheel and shift boot could be found, but finding all that bronze tinted glass would be really expensive.

SwiftTone

10ae Ftw!

jm93rx7

iTrader: (7)

mine

Johny zoom

iTrader: (5)

Here are my two. stay tuned one more on the way!

Terrh

iTrader: (7)

ummm, 10ae's came with ABS.. everyone I've seen has had it, including mine.

SwiftTone

mine doesnt have one.

Iketh

where's icemark when u need him !!!

13b4me

No ABS on mine either... And ALL 88 TII's had optional ABS, the 10AE being no exception...

tinvestor

According to the listings on the parts sheets it is NOT an option on the 10th. For those of you that have ABS have a look at your paint code and make sure it is UC.

I didnt think ABS was something a dealer would put on but if it is then I imagine they would do it for the right amount of money.

I imagine it is possible for the parts sheets to be wrong also so who knows.

Icemark

There appears to be two different batches of 10thAE cars.

The difference between the two batches is that some had ABS, and some had adjustable seats with headrests from the verts. Other differences include silver tinted 10thAE badges and gold tinted 10AE badges and some came with the front part of the Sports Aero kit while the other batch did not.

I don't know the VIN break yet.

This follows normal Mazda Limited production run standards. They did the same two batch break on the Infini IV.

tinvestor

My parts sheet must be for the early ones then.