rx7 na vs a 3000gt
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According to the performance numbers sticky in the General Automotive section, the cars are almost dead even. It should be go to the better driver if both cars are running 'good as new', unless the numbers on the 3000 aren't accurate.
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come on,he is almost a thousand pounds heavier,
and all the stats ive been able to gleam is that the gt is a 7.5-8 sec car and about 15 quarter mile.
remember,im not talking a vr4 here.
i should have an even chance of getting him.
do you have tha stats on the 3000gt?
maybe my info is incorrect
i just asumed,since my porsche 944 can beat the 3000gt,
and the rx7 has practicaly identical performace to my porsche,it should handle it the same
and all the stats ive been able to gleam is that the gt is a 7.5-8 sec car and about 15 quarter mile.
remember,im not talking a vr4 here.
i should have an even chance of getting him.
do you have tha stats on the 3000gt?
maybe my info is incorrect
i just asumed,since my porsche 944 can beat the 3000gt,
and the rx7 has practicaly identical performace to my porsche,it should handle it the same
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The 3000gt runs a 16.4 in the quarter.
You should be running around a 16.5.
But the 3000 weighs much more, and should push in the corners, if you take him in some twisties, you should win.
You should be running around a 16.5.
But the 3000 weighs much more, and should push in the corners, if you take him in some twisties, you should win.
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um no.... Sorry guys. I raced one. Its in the killz section. Car stats has them as low 15s I think...U guys must be talking about the 160 hp ones doing 16s because a 3000gt will take U if your stock. I have a modded 89GXL and my friend 91rex here has a stock 91 rex both in working normal compression order. He gets walked by our friend in the 3000gtSL... (SL has intake , exaust)
But still get walked from a dead stop. 91rex was dead even from a roll but the 3000 was in a higher gear. Its ok thou because 91rex is soon to be modded.
I raced him with my modded 7. ( Custom intake, Bonez race pipe , custom shitty cat back, E-fan,wires,removed 6 port sleeves, air pump , a/c, p/s wired VDI open and have yoko tires.(nothing too special). First race I beat him by 2 cars from 0-100. Second race he got a good launch and I beat him by only 1 car. Both are cars (me and rex) are the same so u can see how big of a difference modding a 7 makes.
The 3000gtsl had Gtec and recorded 15.3 consistantly.
The difference with u is that the GT is not modded but I bet he is still in the mid 15s. Good luck.
But still get walked from a dead stop. 91rex was dead even from a roll but the 3000 was in a higher gear. Its ok thou because 91rex is soon to be modded.
I raced him with my modded 7. ( Custom intake, Bonez race pipe , custom shitty cat back, E-fan,wires,removed 6 port sleeves, air pump , a/c, p/s wired VDI open and have yoko tires.(nothing too special). First race I beat him by 2 cars from 0-100. Second race he got a good launch and I beat him by only 1 car. Both are cars (me and rex) are the same so u can see how big of a difference modding a 7 makes.
The 3000gtsl had Gtec and recorded 15.3 consistantly.
The difference with u is that the GT is not modded but I bet he is still in the mid 15s. Good luck.
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Sorry blu gxl and ryde or dye. U guys are pretty much right. It will come down to the better driver as long as u have mabey an intake and weight reduction. But u guys know that most these 7s on the street arent working 100 percent.
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Originally posted by von
But u guys know that most these 7s on the street arent working 100 percent.
But u guys know that most these 7s on the street arent working 100 percent.
How different are the weights between the 3000g and the dodge stealth. I've got a friend that has a stock NA one. I don't know anything about it though.
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LOL.. Dodge strealth R/T N/A ... I raced one of those two that had intake , exaust and cams or some kind of small engine work. Tell u what, THier the same as the 3000GTSL. Mabey a slight difference but the stealth I raced was soposed to be fast with his mods. We went from a roll because my maf sensor kept falling off everytime I draged it. We both hit it at the same time , I was at 4k rpms and my 7 just took off. Started pulling harder at 6.5k than it was at 6 and all they way to redline. Never gained an inch , He never gained as well. I missed second and we both wanted to go again. but the cops came and busted our friend. But before the roll when I was draging him , I took him off the launch every time....I have no dought in my mind that I would toast him through every gear. My 7 is about 95 percent right now. A little pop and hesitation in the primaries but fixing it this weekend. Nothing that would hinder racing thou. Just streetability. Anyways I will race him again for I am fixing the injectors and porting the manifold.
Good luck.
Good luck.
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Oh... Car stats has the GTSL at 15.8 stock. With an intake and mild weight reduction im sure your car will do 15.8. people have said they done this stock but im sure under perfect conditions. 15.8 is max I think for perfectly running 89.91 engine.
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You know that some 3000GT and Stealth has a 160hp engine, you might be racing those.
von, screw car stats, find a person that runs 15.8 in a 89-91 car. You wont find it on the forum. Most go from 16.5-17.0
von, screw car stats, find a person that runs 15.8 in a 89-91 car. You wont find it on the forum. Most go from 16.5-17.0
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ok the 3000gt/stealth is about 160hp and 1000lbs heavier than an NA.
The N/A (s5) has 160hp too (stock) and WAS MADE TO RUN high 15's STOCK (some magazine got like 15.8 with mAd QwIk ShiFTinG y0! ). Mazda rates it 16.0 from the factory. Now with a few mods (just even headers) should be able to bring it down into the 15's with moderate shifting . Plus the s5's should pull an easy mid 7 0-60.
The 3000gt SL pulls a 8.5 from 0-60! and a 16.4 in the 1/4. So, the N/A RX-7 wins in both catagories. Plus handling.
Now the VR-4 will walk up and down all over you...
I got all my stats from :2ndgenrx7.freeservers.com
The N/A (s5) has 160hp too (stock) and WAS MADE TO RUN high 15's STOCK (some magazine got like 15.8 with mAd QwIk ShiFTinG y0! ). Mazda rates it 16.0 from the factory. Now with a few mods (just even headers) should be able to bring it down into the 15's with moderate shifting . Plus the s5's should pull an easy mid 7 0-60.
The 3000gt SL pulls a 8.5 from 0-60! and a 16.4 in the 1/4. So, the N/A RX-7 wins in both catagories. Plus handling.
Now the VR-4 will walk up and down all over you...
I got all my stats from :2ndgenrx7.freeservers.com
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Okay the 3000GT is the car I know most about.
Here are the specs:
91-96 SLs have 222hp and 215tq, 5spds run mid/low 15s stock with a good driver. The car is hard to launch due to FWD and good amount of TQ. If the car is an auto it is a piece of **** unless you run him from a 30roll. 1/4 for the autos is mid 16s.
97-99 SLs have 218 hp (precat robbed pwr.) And run mid 15s stock as well.
The base model and SL versions in pre97 form both have 222. The SL weighs 300 pounds more due to fancy gadgetry. The base 97-99 have 167hp and are slower than ****. The autos run 17s, manual 16s.
So: if you are racing a 1991-1996 5spd then you will most likely lose if he can hook up. If its an auto, close but Ill go with you if you are a manual.
Here are the specs:
91-96 SLs have 222hp and 215tq, 5spds run mid/low 15s stock with a good driver. The car is hard to launch due to FWD and good amount of TQ. If the car is an auto it is a piece of **** unless you run him from a 30roll. 1/4 for the autos is mid 16s.
97-99 SLs have 218 hp (precat robbed pwr.) And run mid 15s stock as well.
The base model and SL versions in pre97 form both have 222. The SL weighs 300 pounds more due to fancy gadgetry. The base 97-99 have 167hp and are slower than ****. The autos run 17s, manual 16s.
So: if you are racing a 1991-1996 5spd then you will most likely lose if he can hook up. If its an auto, close but Ill go with you if you are a manual.
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Dre2000, those stats you have are not right at all and barely match correctly with automatic 3000GTs.
There are lightly modded NAs on www.3si.org running 15flat to high 14s with intake exaust and UDP so don't take them that lightly.
No SLs run mid 16s in maual form unless Perry Como's corpse is driving. I am very familiar with the cars as 5 of the 7 members in my race crew drive 3000GTs/Stealths. Two turbo and 3 nonturbo (all SLs and R/Ts) So again it will be close in stock form. But look at vons race encounter, it is factual and I was there. I didn't really lose to the SL though from a stop b/c my clutch only had 30 miles on it and obviously couldn't hold any power over 4500 RPMS without slipping badly. But from a roll 3rd gear punch we were dead even all the way through the gear except---->he was in fourth.
There are lightly modded NAs on www.3si.org running 15flat to high 14s with intake exaust and UDP so don't take them that lightly.
No SLs run mid 16s in maual form unless Perry Como's corpse is driving. I am very familiar with the cars as 5 of the 7 members in my race crew drive 3000GTs/Stealths. Two turbo and 3 nonturbo (all SLs and R/Ts) So again it will be close in stock form. But look at vons race encounter, it is factual and I was there. I didn't really lose to the SL though from a stop b/c my clutch only had 30 miles on it and obviously couldn't hold any power over 4500 RPMS without slipping badly. But from a roll 3rd gear punch we were dead even all the way through the gear except---->he was in fourth.
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