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bknopps 10-16-08 10:02 AM

REW + Wrecked FC with no motor = Fun way to spend winter!
 
My friends and I are in the middle of this swap now for fun [wrecked the FC and it wouldn't start (pinched wire in the harness) so I gave the motor to a friend] so with the help of alot of friends Im throwing in a REW motor . It's being done ghetto style [this means cheap, but can still run and drive with it in]. I'm going to be running alot of the stock FD parts, and I'm alittle confused on exactly what all has to be done [fc3spro is alittle vauge on getting this swap done]...

So far this is what we have pulled off the donor car:
Fuel pump, Motor [75k on it don't know if their was a rebuild, just know it starts], wiring harness [what ever was in the engine bay I pulled out] , ignition system, ECU, motor mounts

What my friends have given me that they have had laying around:
Front mount intercooler and piping, cone filters and piping, huge aftermarket transmission cooler [going to be used as an oil cooler, bad idea but the point is for the car to run at this point in time], oil lines and fittings, TII Transmission & Rearend [ going to try a stock n/a transmission first to prevent getting a drive shaft, I really don't feel like swaping the rear end at this point and time].

We have started to refine and figure out what's what on the wiring harness, and upgrading the fuel pump wiring to 14ga [we have the nessisary resistor and relay no worries y0!].


I'm currently trying to talk a fabrication shop down on making me an engine cradle. If this fails I'm going to go with the motive mount adaptors.

If this swap goes well, I plan to get a roller and build it up right myself.


Anyone who knows about anything about this swap please let me know if we need anything extra / do anything special.

jmkogut 10-16-08 11:50 AM

All I can say if you my friend, have a lot of work ahead of you. While you're buying all of this shit, make sure to get a NICE digital camera and document it all. I love reading buildup threads :D

RETed 10-16-08 12:26 PM

No.


-Ted

rxdrift7 10-16-08 12:36 PM

I love Reted's responses. It's been done, but its a whole lot of work. Good luck. I hear the heard part is wiring but dont quote me on that.

bknopps 10-16-08 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by RETed (Post 8642824)
No.


-Ted

When this bitch is done I'm shipping it to hawaii and running it into your garage. :lol:

RETed 10-16-08 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by bknopps (Post 8643072)
When this bitch is done I'm shipping it to hawaii and running it into your garage. :lol:

How about I give you a year to finish this?
If you can't finish this within 6 months (since you did mention it being done over the winter), you can come back and tell everyone how you were a little bitch and need some spankings...


-Ted

That Rx-7 kid 10-16-08 02:20 PM

oh shiiiiyaaat. Rx7club forum wars. episode 1,007

shika805 10-16-08 02:26 PM

+1^ there always has to be some shit talking

younG_Gunner 10-16-08 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by shika805 (Post 8643225)
+1^ there always has to be some shit talking

Aren't those part of the rules? :lol:

bknopps 10-16-08 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by RETed (Post 8643200)
How about I give you a year to finish this?
If you can't finish this within 6 months (since you did mention it being done over the winter), you can come back and tell everyone how you were a little bitch and need some spankings...


-Ted

I'm down. :bigthumb: But if I finnish you can't ever say NO or talk shit in another REW - FC thread. EVAR.



On a side note: It's not shit talking kids, it's a friendly bet :crackup:

arghx 10-16-08 06:03 PM

add $1000+ to your budget for a standalone...

FC3Sdrift 10-16-08 10:44 PM

-$600 and just get megasquirt for 400+ dependin on how many goodies you add to it

Circuit Theory 10-17-08 12:03 AM

Ahhhh This is a real difficult thread to read. Half of me wants to see you fail and Reted continue on as always but half of me wants to see you succeed and see if Reted will live up to his end of the bargain (which I am sure will be difficult for him to do hahaha but possible)

Good luck to the OP and Reted hahaha. At this point in time I think Reted has the upper hand.

RETed 10-17-08 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by RETed (Post 8643200)
How about I give you a year to finish this?

Sorry, I re-edited my original message...
It should be:
"How about I give you 6 months to finish this?"

Since you sound serious about this, how about we set up some rules?
* The car should be able to punch out at least a 13-second 1/4-mile run.
* The car should be able to drive around the island of Oahu without any sort of mechanical break-down - if the car is unable to drive under it's own power for whatever reason, you lose the bet.
* The car should be able to average 15mpg on the above round-the-island drive mentioned above.
Those 3 performance goals should be easily met with this project, right?

The deal is for 6 months.
You've already waste a day.
You have 179 days left.


-Ted

MidnightOwl 10-17-08 09:03 AM

Oh snap, it's on!

Johny zoom 10-17-08 03:33 PM

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Dude forget engine cradle and drill the center Iron use FC oil pan and front cover and cas
See this thread https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/sucessful-rew-into-fc-thread-712829/ it also turned into a Ted hates a REW in a FC

If I can help let me know

Here is a pic of the water to air I/C

TitaniumTT 10-17-08 11:35 PM


Originally Posted by Circuit Theory (Post 8644890)
Ahhhh This is a real difficult thread to read. Half of me wants to see you fail and Reted continue on as always but half of me wants to see you succeed and see if Reted will live up to his end of the bargain (which I am sure will be difficult for him to do hahaha but possible)

Good luck to the OP and Reted hahaha. At this point in time I think Reted has the upper hand.

:rlaugh::rofl::lol2::lol::lol2::rofl::rlaugh:

See sig:icon_tup:


Originally Posted by Johny zoom (Post 8646506)
Dude forget engine cradle and drill the center Iron use FC oil pan and front cover and cas
See this thread https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=712829 it also turned into a Ted hates a REW in a FC

If I can help let me know

Here is a pic of the water to air I/C

Are you running a w2a and an a2a?

epic 10-18-08 01:04 AM

ohh sh@# i want more!!!! wheres the pics? can we see daily pics of wat u are doing?

SPDRACER 10-18-08 02:55 AM

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It's not as hard as everyone says.... I'm 80% of the way through my project which included an REW swap. So far it has taken 2 months and during this time I have completely stripped the car down and resprayed it silver from red, built a V-mount intercooler/radiator setup with ducting, rebuilt the REW motor, upgraded the fuel system.

I wouldn't waste time with the factory REW loom and ecu, run a stand alone ecu.
Drill and tap the centre plate to accept the FC r/h engine mount and fabricate a mount for the l/h side to fit to the factory FC position. Modify an FC sump to suit the REW engine.

Johny zoom 10-18-08 07:11 AM

Not to thread jack but yeah In running a Air to air and water to air I have 1100 miles on her gt35R turbo and microtech. I agree with SPDRACR. Ithink I paid a wopping $75.00 to get it drilled and tapped and 75 for a mount for the drivers left mount.
Its a mount that exactly like the factory with out any holes. then I drilled two holed to mount to the centre iron

2slow4stock 10-18-08 11:00 AM

http://00ef783.netsolhost.com/produc...0374d05db41294 Theres that adapter. If you want to do that.

myersprostatus 10-18-08 11:14 AM

GL with this swap.

The word CHEAP does not work with this sort of swap...

youll have to go stand alone. Loom your own harness. make your own mounts. etc etc. its gonna be 2k just for computer and tuning...

get prepared to dig deep into your wallet.
if your a kid like me, GL on the 6 month swap. take your time on it man... dont let TED get to you, he likes to spread hate like an annoying case of herpes in more than just a few threads.
save your money man, have fun with it. make sure you do everything proper

TitaniumTT 10-18-08 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by 2slow4stock (Post 8648049)
http://00ef783.netsolhost.com/produc...0374d05db41294 Theres that adapter. If you want to do that.

I fucking HATE those things. That, to me, is the absolute WRONG way to do this swap.


Originally Posted by myersprostatus (Post 8648074)
youll have to go stand alone. Loom your own harness. make your own mounts. etc etc. its gonna be 2k just for computer and tuning...

Not necessarily. He can buy an REW harness and get a PowerFC and be done with it


Originally Posted by myersprostatus (Post 8648074)
dont let TED get to you, he likes to spread hate like an annoying case of herpes in more than just a few threads.

:hahaha:

pistones 10-18-08 04:19 PM

hey ted why is fuel economy on the list? seems kind of unimportant.

epic 10-18-08 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by RETed (Post 8645286)
Sorry, I re-edited my original message...
It should be:
"How about I give you 6 months to finish this?"

Since you sound serious about this, how about we set up some rules?
* The car should be able to punch out at least a 13-second 1/4-mile run.
* The car should be able to drive around the island of Oahu without any sort of mechanical break-down - if the car is unable to drive under it's own power for whatever reason, you lose the bet.
* The car should be able to average 15mpg on the above round-the-island drive mentioned above.
Those 3 performance goals should be easily met with this project, right?

The deal is for 6 months.
You've already waste a day.
You have 179 days left.


-Ted


15 mpg sounds about right. mybe 17ish if u do everything right.

"* The car should be able to drive around the island of Oahu without any sort of mechanical break-down - if the car is unable to drive under it's own power for whatever reason, you lose the bet."


as for that, that is a given. the car as 2 be able 2 that at least once in its full re-build.

also i would like 2 see the pics of the car once it is in ted garage and him with the look of "OMFG!"

epic 10-18-08 06:07 PM

also its wat 178 days left?

BurntOrangeT2 10-18-08 06:25 PM

Greatest RX7CLUB.com bet in the documented history of the forum.

epic 10-18-08 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by BurntOrangeT2 (Post 8648829)
Greatest RX7CLUB.com bet in the documented history of the forum.

agreed.

pyro_racer_0016 10-18-08 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by myersprostatus (Post 8648074)
GL with this swap.

The word CHEAP does not work with this sort of swap...

youll have to go stand alone. Loom your own harness. make your own mounts. etc etc. its gonna be 2k just for computer and tuning...

get prepared to dig deep into your wallet.
if your a kid like me, GL on the 6 month swap. take your time on it man... dont let TED get to you, he likes to spread hate like an annoying case of herpes in more than just a few threads.
save your money man, have fun with it. make sure you do everything proper

the 13b-re mounts that banzai sells for the fc will work with this swap and get a power fc and banzai sells a harness adapter for both the s4 and s5

I have been planning this swap in my 88 se but that will be the end ofnext summer i am going to drift it na for the summer so my fiance can learn

GL with the swap pm me if u need any info i have both a fd and an fc and fsm's for both

RotaryJun 10-18-08 11:33 PM

This thread should be sticky until it's done. I wanna see the ending!

The 15mpg rule sounds right, just to be sure the car is running properly and efficiently.

Good luck to both sides!

P.S. Wait, was does the OP get if he wins?

demontwig 10-18-08 11:36 PM

he gets a cookie baked by Ted? :scratch:

And it shouldn't be that hard, just relatively time consuming and labor/money intensive

RETed 10-19-08 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by pistones (Post 8648613)
hey ted why is fuel economy on the list? seems kind of unimportant.

The rotary engine will ingest a lot of fuel before it won't run.
Basically, the engine has to be in a decent tune to hit 15mpg.
The drive is basically a "highway" drive, and a good tune should easily hit 20mpg.
I've given the 15mpg figure just to eliminate really badly tuned / running engines.

Basically, the goal is to have a good swap which will produce good performance numbers.


-Ted

RETed 10-19-08 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by RotaryJun (Post 8649388)
P.S. Wait, was does the OP get if he wins?

How about I pay for the OP's roundtrip plane ticket?
Full refund on a coach-class ticket?


-Ted

TitaniumTT 10-19-08 10:07 AM

Shippage for the car to HI would be more appropriate if he wins

RotaryWeaponSE7EN 10-19-08 01:04 PM

Alright guys I'm taking bets for this amazing bet. This one will go down in history if he can pull it off. Otherwise is just another win for Ted.

Turbo II Rotor 10-19-08 01:12 PM

What are the odds? I got $50 saying it never happens. Though most of that reason is because it's expensive as hell to ship a car to HI and back.

RotaryWeaponSE7EN 10-19-08 03:56 PM

4:1, 3:1 odds for Rted? sound fair?

BurntOrangeT2 10-19-08 07:00 PM

OMG this is classic, I want to put a C-note on ted's OP!

sub9lulu 10-20-08 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by RETed (Post 8649701)
How about I pay for the OP's roundtrip plane ticket?
Full refund on a coach-class ticket?


-Ted

to hawaii ?
i should make a thread saying i'd start a project like this lol

TitaniumTT 10-20-08 01:56 PM

make it 20:1 & i'll fly out there and make sure it gets done ;)

epic 10-20-08 07:56 PM

oh man....i cant wait 2 see if the car gets done.

FrankV702 10-20-08 08:03 PM

The 13B-RE mounts will work to mount a 13B-REW in the car as well??

epic 10-21-08 03:52 AM

pics pics pics pics
!!!! where the pics so far i wana see wats going on with the car

epic 10-22-08 07:37 PM

T_T nothing yet?

tajabaho1 10-22-08 07:52 PM

i bet for ted

SouthSideSlider 10-22-08 08:07 PM

just getting it running well i dont think would be to treably hard REW harness power FC as i think was mentioned. or build you own wiring harness and megasquirt it. now as for putting down impressive numbers thats a whole nother story.

as much as i would love to see someone shove it in teds face its not going to happen here. LOL

then again the OP hasn't posted in awhile maybe he is wrenching diligently.

Turbo II Rotor 10-22-08 08:24 PM

174.

epic 10-23-08 01:21 AM


Originally Posted by SouthSideSlider (Post 8660794)
just getting it running well i dont think would be to treably hard REW harness power FC as i think was mentioned. or build you own wiring harness and megasquirt it. now as for putting down impressive numbers thats a whole nother story.

as much as i would love to see someone shove it in teds face its not going to happen here. LOL

then again the OP hasn't posted in awhile maybe he is wrenching diligently.

i hope hes working non-stop. :lol: i really want 2 see wats going on with the car. i cant wait.

wrankin 10-23-08 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by Turbo II Rotor (Post 8660847)
174.

Actually, it's 176. Ted said 6-months, or April 16th, which is 182 days total.

So the countdown today is 175 days.

-b

ilike2eatricers 10-23-08 12:41 PM

subscribed lol


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