Resistance When My Car Is Running ?!?!
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Resistance When My Car Is Running ?!?!
Hey All,
I have a question for you guys...
Here's what I did recently:
I did the ground the hell out of your RX-7 mod 2 days ago... I put a ground from my starter housing to the negative post on the battery. I put one from the neg. post to the firewall and an extra alternator wire to the positive terminal. I am also planning on putting one more from the top of the intake to the firewall tomorrow. Not to mention everything stock was reconnected. (All new wires are 4 gauge)
Now, what I have found with some testing is that I get about 20 ohms of resistance when I touch one of my DMM test leads to the negative post of the battery or a good metal part on the firewall and the other test lead to almost any part of the engine. BUT, this is only the case when the car is *running*. If the ignition is off I get 0 ohms as well as when the ignition is on *without* the car running I get a reading of 0 ohms. Also, just for reference I do get 0 ohms when I touch any part of the firewall and the negative terminal at the same time even when the car is running. So it's only between the firewall/neg. terminal to the block.
I never checked the resistance before so I don't know if I caused this or not. Unfortunately I have nothing to base my findings on.
Is this normal or should I be getting 0 ohms at any time whether the car is running or not?
If this is a problem do you have any suggestions to what it could be?
Thanks a ton!
-Mike
I have a question for you guys...
Here's what I did recently:
I did the ground the hell out of your RX-7 mod 2 days ago... I put a ground from my starter housing to the negative post on the battery. I put one from the neg. post to the firewall and an extra alternator wire to the positive terminal. I am also planning on putting one more from the top of the intake to the firewall tomorrow. Not to mention everything stock was reconnected. (All new wires are 4 gauge)
Now, what I have found with some testing is that I get about 20 ohms of resistance when I touch one of my DMM test leads to the negative post of the battery or a good metal part on the firewall and the other test lead to almost any part of the engine. BUT, this is only the case when the car is *running*. If the ignition is off I get 0 ohms as well as when the ignition is on *without* the car running I get a reading of 0 ohms. Also, just for reference I do get 0 ohms when I touch any part of the firewall and the negative terminal at the same time even when the car is running. So it's only between the firewall/neg. terminal to the block.
I never checked the resistance before so I don't know if I caused this or not. Unfortunately I have nothing to base my findings on.
Is this normal or should I be getting 0 ohms at any time whether the car is running or not?
If this is a problem do you have any suggestions to what it could be?
Thanks a ton!
-Mike
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Yeah, I think I'll try that. Although, I doubt that me adding *better* grounds would cause my resistance to rise.... But it wouldn't hurt to check I guess.
Any other comments?
Any other comments?
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You know checking the resistance of something while current is going through it is a very quick way to fry the voltmeter, dont you? The current flowing through the voltmeter(that really shouldnt be) is most likely causing the discrepency in resistance.
If the resistance is 0 when no current is flowing(engine off), then the grounds are good. Period.
If the resistance is 0 when no current is flowing(engine off), then the grounds are good. Period.
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oh I just noticed that you hadn't added the engine to firewall one yet. I'm sure that would get rid of your resistance since it is between the engine and battery. you probably need it. stick that on and test again.
I added one from battery to fender, intake to firewall, and a pos from alternator to fuse box to battery (following the stock wire).
edit: just read above post, don't retest after adding the manifold one
I added one from battery to fender, intake to firewall, and a pos from alternator to fuse box to battery (following the stock wire).
edit: just read above post, don't retest after adding the manifold one
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MazdaSpeed7 : No, I didn't know that testing with the engine on could fry the DMM. Does current even move through engine grounds? Could you explain for me a bit more?? I'm no electrical guru that's forsure
Scott: I kinda do have one to the firewall already. The one that goes to my fender from the neg. terminal and the one from the starter touch at the battery terminal. (Does that make sense?) So I figured that would be virtually the same thing as going directly from the firewall to the engine. I just thought I was killing 2 birds with one stone. Either way, I'm still going to put the other one on.
Thanks for your help so far guys! Keep the info coming !
-Mike
Scott: I kinda do have one to the firewall already. The one that goes to my fender from the neg. terminal and the one from the starter touch at the battery terminal. (Does that make sense?) So I figured that would be virtually the same thing as going directly from the firewall to the engine. I just thought I was killing 2 birds with one stone. Either way, I'm still going to put the other one on.
Thanks for your help so far guys! Keep the info coming !
-Mike
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Originally posted by Porcupine
MazdaSpeed7 : No, I didn't know that testing with the engine on could fry the DMM. Does current even move through engine grounds? Could you explain for me a bit more?? I'm no electrical guru that's forsure
Thanks for your help so far guys! Keep the info coming !
-Mike
MazdaSpeed7 : No, I didn't know that testing with the engine on could fry the DMM. Does current even move through engine grounds? Could you explain for me a bit more?? I'm no electrical guru that's forsure
Thanks for your help so far guys! Keep the info coming !
-Mike
The ground on a car is just to simplify the wiring. its not really a ground, its just a common -. By connecting the - terminal of the battery to the body of the car(consuctive metal), you make it unnecessary to run the - lead from everything that requires power all the way to the - terminal on the battery.
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You might want to run one from the engine directly to the negative terminal of the battery.  Remember, the spark plugs fire due to the + off the spark plug center electrode and the negative ground off the ENGINE.
-Ted
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Thanks for the suggestion Ted. I have one question though:
Shouldn't the extra 4 gauge wire I put on from my starter housing to the negative battery terminal be good enough to accomplish that?
Thanks,
Mike
Shouldn't the extra 4 gauge wire I put on from my starter housing to the negative battery terminal be good enough to accomplish that?
Thanks,
Mike
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Originally posted by Porcupine
Shouldn't the extra 4 gauge wire I put on from my starter housing to the negative battery terminal be good enough to accomplish that?
Shouldn't the extra 4 gauge wire I put on from my starter housing to the negative battery terminal be good enough to accomplish that?
2) I use one of the number of largish bolts/nuts on the driver's side front part of the engine and/or AC/PS.  This places the ground point a lot closer and more secure versus the starter in the rear.
-Ted
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