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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 12:56 AM
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Recent motor buildup pixtures

Well I know how much you guys like pixs, so here goes.


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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 12:58 AM
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 12:59 AM
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Customer just wanted a small streetport and a few extra goodies, hopefully he will be very happy with how it turns out. I just have to finish his header over the next few days and we will see...
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 01:02 AM
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are those rotors just really clean or ceramic coated?
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 01:16 AM
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Most everthing is coated. On this motor the oil pump, and bearings have an extreme oil attraction/rentention coating. The rotor combustion faces, exhaust ports, exhaust sleeve, and behind the exhaust sleeves have a heat rejection coating. The irons have an oil attraction/retention coating. The rotor housings have a combination of oil retention, and heat rejection coating, which is in the R&D phase right now.

But as far as being clean the entire motor has gone through many phases of cleaning including chemical and ultrasonic cleaning...
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 03:10 AM
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the question is : hoe much did it cost? and : Is it cost effective?

but that's such a ******* clean engine.

I wonder why did the guy wanted to keep the rat's nest... Once you're down there, remove and block every thing....

ahhhhhhhh there must be emission test...
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 03:22 AM
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must cost a buttload
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 03:43 AM
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All that, on an NA? With such tiny ports? That's the biggest waste of money I have seen AS OF YET. That motor will last longer than mine, but I swear I will have more fun driving it than that guy.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 03:49 AM
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Most everthing is coated. On this motor the oil pump, and bearings have an extreme oil attraction/rentention coating. The rotor combustion faces, exhaust ports, exhaust sleeve, and behind the exhaust sleeves have a heat rejection coating. The irons have an oil attraction/retention coating. The rotor housings have a combination of oil retention, and heat rejection coating, which is in the R&D phase right now.

But as far as being clean the entire motor has gone through many phases of cleaning including chemical and ultrasonic cleaning...
Holy hell, how much did all that cost? What is shocking to me is that an FC owner paid to have this done and kept it mild!

Jokes aside, that's one of the cleanest, and potentially very long lasting engines I've seen. Good work, do you do all the coatings yourself or do you contract it out?
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 04:48 AM
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yes we must know how much this is costing the customer... btw are those NEW rotors, NEW irons, and NEW housings? and all coated with that stuff, and all new seals and orings, new bearings, sheesh...
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 05:29 AM
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**** thats a clean engine...and a clean lambo in the background as well....
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by adrock3217
All that, on an NA? With such tiny ports? That's the biggest waste of money I have seen AS OF YET. That motor will last longer than mine, but I swear I will have more fun driving it than that guy.
If its what the customer asked for and they are happy why is it a waste of money? Its called good customer service giving the customer what they want not what you want for them because your needs are different than their needs.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 09:12 AM
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All that, on an NA? With such tiny ports? That's the biggest waste of money I have seen AS OF YET. That motor will last longer than mine, but I swear I will have more fun driving it than that guy.
Because it's not all about size. Velocity and shape is often more important. Huge ports may generate gobs of power at 9000 RPM, but how often do you drive at 9000 RPM? Keeping port velocity up means that you benefit down low much more then if you had just made them as large as possible.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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Uh whos' the lambo in the Bg
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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mine
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 10:52 AM
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Wow, why did you have to move Revvin?

I want a big streetport and cermaic coatings ;(!
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 01:44 AM
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Haha.

The only new parts in that motor are the bearings/seals. Those are used irons/rotors/housings. Cost effective choice to all new parts, seeing as rotor housings are near $500 a pop, $600 per rotor, $400 per iron. And yes this car has to pass emissions.

Breakdown on the synthetic ceramic coatings are:
$15 per bearing- oil retention/attraction/friction reduction
$55 per oil pump-^^
$35 per exhaust sleeve- heat rejection
$300 for a set of rotors to be done- heat rejection on the combustion faces, oil coating for the 2 faces
$300 for both rotor housings to recieve a thermal barrier/oil attraction coating-also includes heat rejection for port/and area behind exhaust sleeve
$500 to have all 4 iron faces - oil retention coating

All the coatings are self clearancing, and the motor parts have to undergo intensive cleaning preperation.

I am still in the R&D process for the coatings on the rotor housings/irons. The rest of the coatings do work, and will outlast the motor. I have even seen motors loose all oil pressure, and if immediatly shut down the bearings still look just like they were freshly coated, versus normal bearings are completly shot. I have also seen motors blown apart, and the thermal barriers coatings have not came off. A valve hit a piston that was coated on a 800hp drag car and the thermal coating did not come off, not to mention it already had 3 race seasons on that motor.

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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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that red lambo is gay, the pea green one is really where its at!
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 03:44 AM
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$150 downpipe thermal coating inside and out, shipped
$220 per turbine housing shipped
$120 per turbo exhaust manifold

Oil rejection coating for ring and pinion, $120 shipped
$150 for the case.
I can also do tranmission gears, cases, tail shafts etc....
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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That's some high end workmanship.

I’m amazed he didn’t go for a light flywheel..

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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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Transmission gears? Could that help a NA tranny beef up?
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 02:10 AM
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Its just to reduce friction, and parasitic drag.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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I should be firing this car up pretty soon!
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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gah....looking at these pictures want me to start my project....but i cant until i have stupid tickets paid off
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