Rear end issues after curb incident.
12-02-05, 11:46 AM
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Rear end issues after curb incident.
s5 fc..
Last week I got squirrley in the rear end (bald tires/rain) and went sideways popped a curb, blew two tires. The car clearly needs a front end alignment, but that's not the issue.
The rear end is out of alignment. The left rear has a slight amount of negative camber and a visible amount of tow-in. The right rear has visible tow out, and appears to be sitting in a little farther (not that it has any more negative camber then the other side).
What should I be looking for under there? The DTSS bushings have been replaced, with delrin pieces, could one of them have cracked?
Should I just take it and have an alignment done and see if they can adjust it?
Last week I got squirrley in the rear end (bald tires/rain) and went sideways popped a curb, blew two tires. The car clearly needs a front end alignment, but that's not the issue.
The rear end is out of alignment. The left rear has a slight amount of negative camber and a visible amount of tow-in. The right rear has visible tow out, and appears to be sitting in a little farther (not that it has any more negative camber then the other side).
What should I be looking for under there? The DTSS bushings have been replaced, with delrin pieces, could one of them have cracked?
Should I just take it and have an alignment done and see if they can adjust it?
12-02-05, 12:36 PM
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Bring it to an allignment shop and have them take a look at it and do an allignment and get back to us.
The allignment place can adjust the toe in/out with no issues but if the camber is off from left to right in the rear it means something is bent. Probably one or both of the lateral links.
The allignment place can adjust the toe in/out with no issues but if the camber is off from left to right in the rear it means something is bent. Probably one or both of the lateral links.
12-02-05, 12:46 PM
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Ummm... You REALLY.. REALLY need to download the FSM from teamfc3s.org..
You may have bent the lateral links... which will have to be replaced (144 bux a pop)
you'll need to check the DTSS eleminator bushings you put in
You'll need to check all the subframe moutning points.
Toe in can also be adjusted by the cam gear where the trailing arm mounts to the body.. you may have munged that up...
sounds to me like you shoved the entire rear end over a littel bit and because the toe and camber is set through the links and attachment points... you may have bent some stuff that can't be adjusted and the allignment shop won't be able to help you until it gets fixed or replaced.
the FSM explains how to check the lateral links and all that jazz (basicall, the lateral links must be exactly the same length from center of bolt to center of bolt.. if ther are not... then they need replaced.
You may have bent the lateral links... which will have to be replaced (144 bux a pop)
you'll need to check the DTSS eleminator bushings you put in
You'll need to check all the subframe moutning points.
Toe in can also be adjusted by the cam gear where the trailing arm mounts to the body.. you may have munged that up...
sounds to me like you shoved the entire rear end over a littel bit and because the toe and camber is set through the links and attachment points... you may have bent some stuff that can't be adjusted and the allignment shop won't be able to help you until it gets fixed or replaced.
the FSM explains how to check the lateral links and all that jazz (basicall, the lateral links must be exactly the same length from center of bolt to center of bolt.. if ther are not... then they need replaced.
12-02-05, 01:54 PM
#7
This is good information. Thank you I will check these measurements.
Originally Posted by YearsOfDecay
Ummm... You REALLY.. REALLY need to download the FSM from teamfc3s.org..
You may have bent the lateral links... which will have to be replaced (144 bux a pop)
you'll need to check the DTSS eleminator bushings you put in
You'll need to check all the subframe moutning points.
Toe in can also be adjusted by the cam gear where the trailing arm mounts to the body.. you may have munged that up...
sounds to me like you shoved the entire rear end over a littel bit and because the toe and camber is set through the links and attachment points... you may have bent some stuff that can't be adjusted and the allignment shop won't be able to help you until it gets fixed or replaced.
the FSM explains how to check the lateral links and all that jazz (basicall, the lateral links must be exactly the same length from center of bolt to center of bolt.. if ther are not... then they need replaced.
You may have bent the lateral links... which will have to be replaced (144 bux a pop)
you'll need to check the DTSS eleminator bushings you put in
You'll need to check all the subframe moutning points.
Toe in can also be adjusted by the cam gear where the trailing arm mounts to the body.. you may have munged that up...
sounds to me like you shoved the entire rear end over a littel bit and because the toe and camber is set through the links and attachment points... you may have bent some stuff that can't be adjusted and the allignment shop won't be able to help you until it gets fixed or replaced.
the FSM explains how to check the lateral links and all that jazz (basicall, the lateral links must be exactly the same length from center of bolt to center of bolt.. if ther are not... then they need replaced.
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12-02-05, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
2nd on bent lateral link. seen it before.
IF you have problems then pick up a whole unmolested rear subframe setup and bolt that bitch in, your problem will be remedied regardless.
IF you have problems then pick up a whole unmolested rear subframe setup and bolt that bitch in, your problem will be remedied regardless.
12-03-05, 01:11 PM
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I've known a couple people who have bent lateral links.... I think I may be one of them too lol
If you change the lateral links and their is still a significant difference in camber between left and right and you do not want to change the entire rear subframe/hubs/etc. you can kinda bandaid it with AWR or mazdatrix right/left independent camber adjusters.
If you change the lateral links and their is still a significant difference in camber between left and right and you do not want to change the entire rear subframe/hubs/etc. you can kinda bandaid it with AWR or mazdatrix right/left independent camber adjusters.
12-03-05, 05:56 PM
#13
Originally Posted by ilike2eatricers
I've known a couple people who have bent lateral links.... I think I may be one of them too lol
If you change the lateral links and their is still a significant difference in camber between left and right and you do not want to change the entire rear subframe/hubs/etc. you can kinda bandaid it with AWR or mazdatrix right/left independent camber adjusters.
If you change the lateral links and their is still a significant difference in camber between left and right and you do not want to change the entire rear subframe/hubs/etc. you can kinda bandaid it with AWR or mazdatrix right/left independent camber adjusters.
I'll go all out on the subframe. I have no problem with that.
Any difference on s4/s5 subframes?
12-04-05, 05:57 PM
#15
i had the same probelm but i my car caught traction after being sideways and hit the curb dead on. bent 3 rims and popped two tires. curbs are a bitch. and i say go to the alignment shop. mainly because i dont know ***** about adjusting alignment haha.
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