2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

Racing Beat TII Exhaust as Good As They Say? Power Increase? Fitment? Noise?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-09-07, 11:12 PM
  #1  
Non-op

Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
xeccentric's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: San francisco
Posts: 462
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Racing Beat TII Exhaust as Good As They Say? Power Increase? Fitment? Noise?

and i was looking at the rev t2 exhaust. Can anyone give me any details on it?
Is it as good as it claims to be? Is it really that much HP gain?
Old 06-09-07, 11:47 PM
  #2  
The Cause of Death

 
spot_skater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: New York
Posts: 2,202
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Yes. When you free up the exhaust it causes boost to climb, which will net you more power. With the new exhaust you'll need an FCD and possibly bigger injectors and at the least a piggy back fuel computer, to control the bigger injectors.

Search FCD and boost creep. You will find more information.

James
Old 06-10-07, 12:49 AM
  #3  
Non-op

Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
xeccentric's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: San francisco
Posts: 462
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks for the info
Old 06-10-07, 01:52 PM
  #4  
R.E Amemiya

iTrader: (16)
 
got_boost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Montreal, Canada
Posts: 1,266
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by spot_skater
Yes. When you free up the exhaust it causes boost to climb, which will net you more power. With the new exhaust you'll need an FCD and possibly bigger injectors and at the least a piggy back fuel computer, to control the bigger injectors.

Search FCD and boost creep. You will find more information.

James
so your saying that the exhaust will actually produce 59hp ???????????
i have troubles believing that.
beside raising the boost, bigger injectors wont change nothin at that moment, if he hasnt upgraded is fuel pump and a computer upgrade (like the rtek v2.0).
so i doubt that there actually an increase of 59hp.
Old 06-10-07, 03:10 PM
  #5  
Senior Member

iTrader: (9)
 
FCforMe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: San Diego
Posts: 366
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
if you're looking for a quiet exhaust, this is the one. if you want those loud firecracker types that you can hear from blocks away, this isn't...
Old 06-10-07, 04:51 PM
  #6  
Senior Member

 
Wizz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Cleveland
Posts: 458
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have the racing beat 3". I do believe the 59 horse gain. (W/ some sore of FCD)

Stock is 184 HP @ the fly. Minus 15% to the wheel which is 150 HP.
150 + 59 = 209 HP
I dynoed 210 RWHP w/ the 3" turbo back system.
Old 06-10-07, 04:51 PM
  #7  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
iTrader: (1)
 
2713ddddavid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Harper Woods, MI.
Posts: 841
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by got_boost
so your saying that the exhaust will actually produce 59hp ???????????
i have troubles believing that.
beside raising the boost, bigger injectors wont change nothin at that moment, if he hasnt upgraded is fuel pump and a computer upgrade (like the rtek v2.0).
so i doubt that there actually an increase of 59hp.
My 88 T2 came to me bone stock except for no airpump and an upgraded clutch.
The first upgrade I did was the Racingbeat REV TII exhaust. Expensive? yes but worth every dime. Combined with the fuel cut defender and K&N cone filter it was like driving a totaly different car. Boost WAY up over S4 stock without porting wastegate.
You WILL need to port the stock wastegate to keep boost at safe level.
While I can't tell you dyno numbers I will say without a doubt power was a hell of a lot higher than stock. So believe it will make a large difference.

I've since upgraded to an S5/BNR stage 2 turbo, 750s all around and Rtek 1.8.
Now its faster still.

Last edited by 2713ddddavid; 06-10-07 at 05:18 PM.
Old 07-14-07, 04:12 AM
  #8  
Junior Member
 
Avve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Sweden
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Great thread! Question: Is it pretty safe to race a S5 turbo where the only modifications are a Racing Beat 3 inch system BUT with a high-flow catalyst, a K&N cone air filter, a FCD and a better fuel pump? I understand that the S5 turbo has a bigger wastegate and don't need porting. Anyway, these are the only engine modifications that are allowed in the racing class I am aiming for... So, no porting, no piggy-back, no big injectors...
Old 07-14-07, 06:11 AM
  #9  
Lives on the Forum

 
RETed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: n
Posts: 26,664
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 15 Posts
Originally Posted by got_boost
so your saying that the exhaust will actually produce 59hp ???????????
i have troubles believing that.
Believe it...

Most "stock" Turbo II's put down about 160 at the wheels.
With the exhuast, these cars will not put down about 220 at the wheels.


-Ted
Old 07-14-07, 06:16 AM
  #10  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (4)
 
AUGieDogie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: seattle
Posts: 1,587
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
this exhaust is by far the best thing to do to upgrade a stock t2. I use this with a Rtec controller, It alows me to adjust my fuel and i have no need for a FCD with it.
Old 07-14-07, 09:36 AM
  #11  
Senior Member

 
psychotic7's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Waco, TX
Posts: 486
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i have an s5 with tII swap, only mods are hks filter, RB 3inch from turbo back which is straight pipe, and walboro 255.....and this car pulls HARD bc now boost is at 10-11psi with the exhaust put on, so yeah 59hp is easily achieved.
Old 07-14-07, 01:07 PM
  #12  
Burning up Time

 
The Griffin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Earth
Posts: 805
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by RETed
Believe it...

Most "stock" Turbo II's put down about 160 at the wheels.
With the exhuast, these cars will not put down about 220 at the wheels.


-Ted
That's not quit true,if you could hold the stock boost with the RB exhaust it would be a minimal increase.Racing beat claims that because the boost creeps wildly,and if I'm not mistaken actually printed it in bold letters in their catalog that you also need the FCD.I bet in the late eighties and early 90's that exhaust and their FCD was an engine builders/mazda reman's business booster.
Old 07-14-07, 02:10 PM
  #13  
Lives on the Forum

 
RETed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: n
Posts: 26,664
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 15 Posts
Show me a full, turbo-back exhaust system that doesn't raise the boost levels, and I'll eat my words.

In fact, this applies to all turbo engines, so assuming the boost levels stay the same before-and-after is just plain dumb.


-Ted
Old 07-14-07, 02:35 PM
  #14  
Haven't we ALL heard this

 
Wankel7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Indiana
Posts: 3,948
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Although, assuming you could actually control the boost on a stock car and keep it low...it would be interesting to do a before/after RB exhaust. So you could see if there was any change in hp/tq at the same stock boost levels.

Maybe it would be better because the turbo would spool up sooner due to less restriction in the exhaust?

James
Old 07-14-07, 02:42 PM
  #15  
2jz'd fc

iTrader: (24)
 
rotary-guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Washington- bellingham
Posts: 1,266
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
i have it, its way too quite but if you like to hear your turbo spool every second like i do then its great. in fact all you hear is the turbo
Old 07-14-07, 03:43 PM
  #16  
Burning up Time

 
The Griffin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Earth
Posts: 805
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by RETed
Show me a full, turbo-back exhaust system that doesn't raise the boost levels, and I'll eat my words.

In fact, this applies to all turbo engines, so assuming the boost levels stay the same before-and-after is just plain dumb.


-Ted
If you reread my post,nobody's arguing your post.OK?

Last edited by The Griffin; 07-14-07 at 03:48 PM.
Old 07-14-07, 04:26 PM
  #17  
^Hold On

 
freemanrx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: eureka
Posts: 1,331
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Bought the whole RB setup. Good quality construction. Very quiet! Easy install! And I agree you will hear the turbo not the exhaust

Hp- I noticed a lot more power
Old 07-14-07, 04:30 PM
  #18  
Mac Attack

iTrader: (5)
 
MaczPayne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Posts: 5,668
Received 20 Likes on 10 Posts
I have it. The car rips.
Old 07-14-07, 06:13 PM
  #19  
Saiga-12 Power!

iTrader: (4)
 
Juiceh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: N of Chicago
Posts: 4,384
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by rotary-guy
i have it, its way too quite but if you like to hear your turbo spool every second like i do then its great. in fact all you hear is the turbo
LoL! So true, and even more true if you have an upgraded Turbo with an anti-surge compressor housing. With my anti-surge 500r the sound of the turbo greatly outweighs the sound of the exhaust. The car just screams down the road until it passes you then you hear the exhaust.

*edit*
RB has dyno proven the 59HP increase with a stock car. Its a no brainer. Getting rid of the exhaust restrictions will allow the turbo to spool up sooner and the boost will raise a few psi.
Old 09-01-07, 04:11 PM
  #20  
Weight Watcher

 
Malefoda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: France
Posts: 183
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Ted and guys, the 59hp gain is on a Kouki or Zenki?
Ted from 160whp to 220, Zenki?
Thx
Matthieu
Old 09-01-07, 05:02 PM
  #21  
My Mom thinks I'm special

 
K.ronic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: In Hell
Posts: 442
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I will have to jump on the bandwangon here. I have the Rev TII 3" system (downpipe, presilencer, y-pipe, and mufflers) on my S5 TII and I love it. It's quiet at idle and cruise speeds around town and on the autobahn it has a great tone at WOT. And yes....there is definatly a power gain, no question.
Old 09-01-07, 07:50 PM
  #22  
Senior Member

 
veedubbed's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 624
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yes, any big exhaust will give you that kind of power. It's because the wastegates on these cars are very restrictive, and the open exhaust will let the turbo spool well over stock boost, producing the power. This can be good or bad, depending on your fueling.....
Old 09-01-07, 08:27 PM
  #23  
Senior Member

iTrader: (2)
 
Stanis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Ocala, FL
Posts: 431
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
It's SO QUIET in my opinion, but that is good. When cruising 35-40mph, all I could hear is the sound of the tires on the pavement over my motor. I had to look at the tach to remind myself that the motor was still running.

I put this exhaust on along with porting the waste gate and my car ran like a champ. It made a difference and I loved it.
Old 09-01-07, 09:13 PM
  #24  
EFRX-7

iTrader: (2)
 
87FCTurboII's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 157
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Everybody with this exhaust needs to post some sound clips, they're kinda scarce.
Old 09-01-07, 09:32 PM
  #25  
#FakeCarEnthusaist

iTrader: (10)
 
Brody8877's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 1,814
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV--m-sid-I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBMDXkyHViE


Quick Reply: Racing Beat TII Exhaust as Good As They Say? Power Increase? Fitment? Noise?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:53 PM.