Racing Beat Race Pipe?
12-14-13, 10:11 PM
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Racing Beat Race Pipe?
Okay im reeeaaally on the fence about this. My 1990 vert is my daily driver and i want to go catless (i dont put the top down all that often), but i need to know some things from people who actually have straight pipes.
I would have a full on stock exhaust just with a race pipe and presilencer, both from racing beat. But assumingly anyone with a straight pipe could answer the following.....
How bad is the smell?
Do cops give you problems?
Is it deafeningly loud?
Down to business, what were the approximate power gains, and does it sound GOOD?
I would have a full on stock exhaust just with a race pipe and presilencer, both from racing beat. But assumingly anyone with a straight pipe could answer the following.....
How bad is the smell?
Do cops give you problems?
Is it deafeningly loud?
Down to business, what were the approximate power gains, and does it sound GOOD?
12-14-13, 10:30 PM
#3
Really bad. I'm about to put a catalytic converter on my car because of it. My convertible is about 350 whp on stock ports, and at idle it burns my eyes and people who follow behind me complain about it.
Not in Georgia or South Carolina
No, not really. In my opinion, it makes it sound significantly worse without a resonator though.
On a naturally aspirated car, not much. And I mean very minimal. Been there, done that when my convertible was stock, and I lost power from the loss of the aux port operation (S4).
If i were you, I'd install a good quality single high flow catalytic converter. Magnaflow makes one that has an air pipe attachment. It will have more flow capability than stock. That's not saying it will flow more, just that it will have the ability to flow more. It will weigh less too. But all the intake and exhaust modifications you can do will not improve the power by much at all. I did everything I could to make my naturally aspirated rotary faster, and in the end it ended up not being pleasant to drive, and I gained nothing.
Not in Georgia or South Carolina
No, not really. In my opinion, it makes it sound significantly worse without a resonator though.
If i were you, I'd install a good quality single high flow catalytic converter. Magnaflow makes one that has an air pipe attachment. It will have more flow capability than stock. That's not saying it will flow more, just that it will have the ability to flow more. It will weigh less too. But all the intake and exhaust modifications you can do will not improve the power by much at all. I did everything I could to make my naturally aspirated rotary faster, and in the end it ended up not being pleasant to drive, and I gained nothing.
12-14-13, 10:32 PM
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Really bad. I'm about to put a catalytic converter on my car because of it. My convertible is about 350 whp on stock ports, and at idle it burns my eyes and people who follow behind me complain about it.
Not in Georgia or South Carolina
No, not really. In my opinion, it makes it sound significantly worse without a resonator though.
On a naturally aspirated car, not much. And I mean very minimal. Been there, done that when my convertible was stock, and I lost power from the loss of the aux port operation (S4).
If i were you, I'd install a good quality single high flow catalytic converter. Magnaflow makes one that has an air pipe attachment. It will have more flow capability than stock. That's not saying it will flow more, just that it will have the ability to flow more. It will weigh less too. But all the intake and exhaust modifications you can do will not improve the power by much at all. I did everything I could to make my naturally aspirated rotary faster, and in the end it ended up not being pleasant to drive, and I gained nothing.
12-15-13, 11:43 AM
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Assumingly with absolutely nothing but the straight pipe and presilencer it wouldnt be too bad at all then?
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12-15-13, 12:06 PM
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12-15-13, 12:18 PM
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Ohhh sorry thats what the other guy said. I meant will the straight pipe and presilencer replace the resonator? I honestly dont know hahaha.
12-15-13, 12:26 PM
#11
On the stock system, there are 3 catalytic converters and 2 mufflers. No resonators because it doesn't need them. When you upgrade to a decent exhaust, usually you will get a resonator and a pair of mufflers. The resonator does some of the sound dampening job that having a catalytic converter would do. The mufflers finish the tone off. If you straight pipe it back to mufflers, it's going to sound shitty. If you don't have a catalytic converter, it's going to burn your eyes (I think Felix is high from the fumes and doesn't notice it anymore, or he never comes to a stop).
If I were you, I would leave the exhaust alone. Or be doomed to repeat the mistake that several others in the past have made... ending up with a shitty-sounding, smelly, no more powerful than stock convertible. Having a convertible, to me, is about having a nice driving experience. Hacking on the exhaust and installing "race" parts only makes it shitty.
If I were you, I would leave the exhaust alone. Or be doomed to repeat the mistake that several others in the past have made... ending up with a shitty-sounding, smelly, no more powerful than stock convertible. Having a convertible, to me, is about having a nice driving experience. Hacking on the exhaust and installing "race" parts only makes it shitty.
12-15-13, 12:38 PM
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On the stock system, there are 3 catalytic converters and 2 mufflers. No resonators because it doesn't need them. When you upgrade to a decent exhaust, usually you will get a resonator and a pair of mufflers. The resonator does some of the sound dampening job that having a catalytic converter would do. The mufflers finish the tone off. If you straight pipe it back to mufflers, it's going to sound shitty. If you don't have a catalytic converter, it's going to burn your eyes (I think Felix is high from the fumes and doesn't notice it anymore, or he never comes to a stop).
If I were you, I would leave the exhaust alone. Or be doomed to repeat the mistake that several others in the past have made... ending up with a shitty-sounding, smelly, no more powerful than stock convertible. Having a convertible, to me, is about having a nice driving experience. Hacking on the exhaust and installing "race" parts only makes it shitty.
If I were you, I would leave the exhaust alone. Or be doomed to repeat the mistake that several others in the past have made... ending up with a shitty-sounding, smelly, no more powerful than stock convertible. Having a convertible, to me, is about having a nice driving experience. Hacking on the exhaust and installing "race" parts only makes it shitty.
12-15-13, 06:04 PM
#14
Last summer I put on a Racing Beat header, bonez cat and RB Cat back. I also put in a upgraded clutch. The car seems more powerful, but it could be better power transfer because of the clutch.
I'm a little older, so I think that the exhaust sound is too loud when the top is down, but not painfully so.
I'm a little older, so I think that the exhaust sound is too loud when the top is down, but not painfully so.
12-15-13, 06:07 PM
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The only thing that will matter for smog is the catylitic converter. Cat back exhausts are street legal as long as they meet the sound requirement.(most will be loud if cat is missing. deleting cats and using stock exhaust will still be somewhat loud and will not pass smog.
12-15-13, 06:22 PM
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Last summer I put on a Racing Beat header, bonez cat and RB Cat back. I also put in a upgraded clutch. The car seems more powerful, but it could be better power transfer because of the clutch.
I'm a little older, so I think that the exhaust sound is too loud when the top is down, but not painfully so.
I'm a little older, so I think that the exhaust sound is too loud when the top is down, but not painfully so.
12-15-13, 10:29 PM
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