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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 05:54 AM
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Quiet question about carbon fiber dashboards

If something is so incredibly strong, are you sure you want that to be the first thing your body contacts in an accident?
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 07:26 AM
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A very valid point. There is a REASON for the padding on your dash. Of course my next statement is going to ruffle a few feathers:

95% of the CF layed by members of this forum(And others) is cosmetic only. It is not pre-peg/vacuumed formed/heat cured with is what ultimately gives CF its incredible strength and light weight.
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 07:36 AM
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but...but...but...i thought cF drops weight and automatically gives me 20 hp gain! :-D haha
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 09:29 AM
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"95% of the CF layed by members of this forum(And others) is cosmetic only. It is not pre-peg/vacuumed formed/heat cured with is what ultimately gives CF its incredible strength and light weight."

Few of us could afford the autoclave to pressure cook the CF. Wet lay-up CF is still pretty strong stuff, you just wouldn't make an F1 car out of it.
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 09:36 AM
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All the better to split some silly ricers head open! Maybe on a race car, but seems a bit much for the street.
Even if it wasn't "comsmetic", who needs an "incredibly strong" dash? It's not like it's in some high stress environment. Anyone ever crack a dash before?

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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 09:41 AM
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Few of us could afford the autoclave to pressure cook the CF. Wet lay-up CF is still pretty strong stuff, you just wouldn't make an F1 car out of it.
So it ends up being COSMETIC
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by rotard
All the better to split some silly ricers head open! Maybe on a race car, but seems a bit much for the street.
Even if it wasn't "comsmetic", who needs an "incredibly strong" dash? It's not like it's in some high stress environment. Anyone ever crack a dash before?
the point is not the 'incredible' strength, the point is that you can use less material because of its strength, meaning a lighter dash.
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by banzaitoyota
So it ends up being COSMETIC


mmmmmmmn... shiny carbon-fiber-y goodness...
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 11:58 AM
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Dunno 'bout all of you, but if I come in contact w/ my dash, I've probably got other problems to be concerned about regardless of CF or padded.
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 12:23 PM
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what about CF for body panels such as fenders and doors... that would net a very good weight reduction.
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 12:29 PM
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It is not pre-peg/vacuumed formed/heat cured with is what ultimately gives CF its incredible strength and light weight.

Just to give you an example of cost:
a 18" x 24" flat piece of CF, from a pre-peg, autoclaved lot is almost 80.00.

Yes weight savings are there they just cost BIG$$$$$$$$
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 05:09 PM
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how much is lexan?
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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if you don't have the cash, aluminum would be just fine. as long as you make everything right . but if you need to save the extra ounces then go cf!
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 05:24 PM
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www.uscomposites.com There is a lot more to carbon fiber than has been covered here. Some is cosmetic and some is structural. Some has strength on only one direction.
If you have ever messed with fiberglass you will find that working carbon fiber is pretty comparible.
The people at U.S. Composites can give advice and you can get them to slap you together a starter kit with enough materials to get you going.
Look at the Kevlar page for some really cool looking ****.
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 05:56 PM
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If I ended up getting a CF dashboard, it'd be to replace the abomination-of-a-dash I have right now, not really to save a couple pounds. Anyhow, in the event of a crash, hopefully it's my seatbelt that I run into, not the dash. About aluminum panels... I'd be scared of denting it, as is, it's hard enough for the exterior to keep from being dented.
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