astrochild7

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>>>scott89t2<<< you got a pic of the bolt on or where is it located

Scott 89t2

I'll have pics when I get it....

Dltreezan

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so i should put the cowl 4 inches foward..........thats what i was thinking...but i wonder if it will clear that fan....with a mesh going between....

Dltreezan

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wait
what the hell am i talking about
of course it will clear.......to much resin to the head

Scott 89t2

I would put the hole infront of the alt. so rain water just falls down between the rad and engine. and won't harm anything. there is a big space there between the engine and rad.

Kaneto

Can't believe I haven't seen this until now.

Can you possibly take a closer pic of the scoop to give us an idea of where in the engine bay it lies? You mentioned that it sits above the area between the shroud and the belts. Is that with the shroud installed (that'd be a pretty small area, if so).

This sort of setup can make a huge difference in cooling if it's positioned right. I've been looking for a decently priced, lightweight hood with a reverse scoup for a while now. It would be installed with an e-fan and no shroud, so the scoop would have to be positioned properly to pull air from behind the radiator out of the engine bay. From the pics you've posted it looks like your might be but I'd like to get a better view inside the scoop from above, just to see where things are positioned beneath it.

If the construction is of decent quality, and everything lines up right when it's installed (including the scoop), and the price is somewhere close to what you mentioned, I will definitely be buying one.

Dltreezan

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right now i have the hopod on the patio making a mold so i can makes some copies or at least mod the mold to make something so the hood its going anywhere for roght now....imagine this.....and ill see if i can find any crappy pics i have......but it sits exactly about an infoward of the shroud (u can see about an inch of black plastic over the fan and it goes about six inches back with about two inches or more left until u hit the belt area...so i thought i had screwed up thinking i had a come a bit too far towards the front and had too much space in the back and no w i have all these other guys telling em they want it four inches FOWARD instead of backwards and thats what most peeps would want......but i can give u measurements from the front of the hood so ucan get the measure out and see for yourself on your own car

Dltreezan

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any responses?? I need some more input and hey astrochild ur in eugene.......not too far away.......i could do the four inches no problem....only thing im stressing is that im broke.....i think someone is going to have to pay up front so i can make one and make up for what ive lost so i can afford to do so...so if i can make one then someone near by would be best cuz they can see it before hand and they can port forth to the rest as to quality and fit....so anyone interested?

Dltreezan

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aight atrochild....you and bluet2 down for the hood just 4 inches closer......i think that will work out better for the both of you.,..and hell if its better overall then i could just stick to it but read my last post and we can figure something out

NZConvertible

When it arrives, mould it and make many copies. I think FMIC-equipped T2 owners would queue up for them. They're a really good idea, but the price of the real thing is crazy for what it is.

Bigretardhead

hmm... I just need to save as much money as possible. I need a new paint job and front bumper,(not to mention a new turbo) and I've got about $200 saved up right now. but, I start working full time next week, so hopefully I'll have enough saved up by the time you're completely finished. everything else I can get any time.



hmm... I wonder how 4 inches farther forward would look? hey, maybe I'll do a horizontal mount instead of top mount. I've got some research to do.

Dltreezan

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aight bigretard u seem to be my primary man since ur the only one that has fully committed so ur the first on my list and i dont want to have to jack *** two different designs at the same time so i think ill go the four inches foward also and make that my primary mold and thats the shape ill stick with...but i have to hear from these other guys as well...i have been workin my *** off on this for the last few weeks day in and day out i just want to have something final and then smooth sailing and glassing from there on out...then i can move onto my next project...which at this moment would be to buy some groceries lool.......

Scott 89t2

ya.. the one I'm buying is already a copy so it's pretty cheap I was planing on having mine like 2 months ago to look at. and then buy more from them or copy it. so I should have more already by now to sell.. but now it's taking so long... I wanted to be selling them for the summer.

plus the US dollar has gone to crap so I would have been making 20% more selling to US 2 months ago LOL...

Scott 89t2

just leave it where it is... an inch infront of the alt. and seeing 2 inch of plastic shroud sounds perfect.

even with an e-fan with no shroud. you probably wouldn't want it right behind the rad anyways. as the air is moving back faster then up.

BLUE TII

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Jacobcartmill quote-
i remember your thread a while back about that horizontal mount project. can i run an FD upper intake manifold with a stock ECU? what about upper AND lower? sooo much cleaner.

Probably could run 3rd gen UIM w/ stock ECU if you adapted TII TPS, air intake temp sensor, BAC valve, vauum lines and make a positive air source for oil injector/injector bleed sockets- etc. That would be a lot or work and who knows if it would help performance at all. 3rd gen LIM will not work on TII "Block" as the manifold has a 45 deg bend at the bottom and the engine has a 45 degree bend- whereas the TII manifold has a 90 deg bend and the "block" has a straight port design. It is easiest to use the '89 TII LIM as the bolt/runner pattern is closest to the 3rd gen UIM and the runners are a hair larger than the '87 manifold to boot

BLUE TII

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Yeah, leave that vent where you have it!

4 inches forward might have a little more low pressure, but the location you have chosen is perfect for minimizing effects of rain for me as well.

If you try to please everyone this will never happen- just make copies of what YOU want and it will work fine for the rest of us.

Kaneto

Make the measurements before you start modifying your design. Also if you have a chance to mount the mock-up hood again and take some pics of the scoop that'd be good too. Let's all corroborate on exactly where we want the scoop to be before we start blindly asking you to change things around.

We need to settle on exactly where the scoop should go, so you'll just have to make one mold to make hoods for everyone.

Kaneto

Also don't be in too much of a hurry to produce these. Make sure you have the design as perfect as possible before making the mold and making a fiberglass test. You've already gone a lot further than most people who have suggested this kind of thing. You don't really need to rush in to it.

Better to take some extra time to get this stage right, than to produce something that's off and nobody wants.

Dltreezan

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that would be awesome cuz im busting ***** got all my hopes in this thing and now its getting stressful so u guys are helping me alot thanx guys for keeping me straight....plus mold should be done tomorow....the prototype is so heavy it actually screwed up my latch

RX7_ZRO

damn man...put me to shame, I don't think I've ever been able to concentrate on any one thing for that long in my life great job, keep it up, maybe one of these days I'll have enough money and I'll get one off of you

astrochild7

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hey dltreezan where exactly are you at... pm me... i'd like to help with this out come .. there are many other things we can talk about with the rotary market ...........

earlier somone was talking about the angle at whitch the LIM enters the engine... this is a common over looked problem in the air system... if you go to a graduall 180 degree's from the top of the motor to the intake ports you gain hidden power that is exponential... i'm in the middle of fabbing one for my car, it flows bitchen... they will be for sale just got to find the capital......ya no green (gatta find a tree)))

Dltreezan

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hey wassup im in portland right now riht off of I5....my old man lives in wilsonville and i think halfway point to meet or to get together would prbably be salem and thats not too hard for either of us

Dltreezan

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yeah i have been thinking about this for a while and like man ui know i have all these ideas and fantasies lemme use my hands to turn them into reality....make some money but sell the stuff for cheap comparatively and enjoy...and move on to other prjects

Rob XX 7

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Looks like you have your hands full.

As for the mold making, make sure you put some stiffners on your mold so it doesnt distort from the heat of the glass when you are laying up in it or when you pop them out. Go for some good mold release wax, not automotive wax.

If you make these how do you plan on them bolting up to the car and how will they latch closed?

This kind of reminds me of when FC3S made the CF FC hoods and then no one bought any.

Dltreezan

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ive got the release wax...not the auto stuff...and for the lastching its gonna be the same as stuck...im just gonna copy and glass...and baout the latches i assume hood pins unless someone else has a better idea....and seems like i have plenty of ineterst here...im not trying to make a career...i just want to make maybe four or five and sell them and if peeps like then i can keep making them..and about the cf...yeah it looks cool but still stock looking...this is a bit different