(Pic) Permanent door handle fix sugestions?
12-02-03, 05:37 PM
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(Pic) Permanent door handle fix sugestions?
Here is a pic of the break in my door handle, i assume most, if not all break here. I can't see JB weld or another epoxy based substance holding this together. I don't have a welder (yet) who has fixed these, and what did you do to get them to hold for good?
I really don't want to replce it do to the custom color of my car, and trying to color match the dorr handle will be a bitch .. plus I hate waiting on parts
sugestions appreciated.
-Robert
I really don't want to replce it do to the custom color of my car, and trying to color match the dorr handle will be a bitch .. plus I hate waiting on parts
sugestions appreciated.
-Robert
12-02-03, 05:52 PM
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Has anyone tried like a bracer bar/bracket with small holes drilled to hold it in place:
look at this pic I just doctered up, what do you think?
look at this pic I just doctered up, what do you think?
12-02-03, 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by Chimeron
I've done it, it's been working great but it feels kinda wierd
I've done it, it's been working great but it feels kinda wierd
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Yeah, I dread the day when one of my handles breaks. I don't let passengers open the door...they think I'm being polite. 
Anyway, my personal choice would be to have it welded, but it is difficult to weld "pot metal" properly. A small steel strip bolted or rivited in might be the best bet.
Anyway, my personal choice would be to have it welded, but it is difficult to weld "pot metal" properly. A small steel strip bolted or rivited in might be the best bet.
12-02-03, 06:58 PM
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Ya, this is my Driver side so it's even worse 
big pain in the ***. It's been like this since I bought the car... just now getting around to fixing it while I wait on my turbo to get out of surgery.
I think i am going to try JB wled in the seam, and a braket on the out side for insurrance, I will take pic's and keep you posted on how it turns out.
If anyone has better sugestions, by all means post them, I don't think i will get to working on this till later int he week, or the weekend.
-Robert
big pain in the ***. It's been like this since I bought the car... just now getting around to fixing it while I wait on my turbo to get out of surgery. I think i am going to try JB wled in the seam, and a braket on the out side for insurrance, I will take pic's and keep you posted on how it turns out.
If anyone has better sugestions, by all means post them, I don't think i will get to working on this till later int he week, or the weekend.
-Robert
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12-02-03, 07:35 PM
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Its only like $90- $100 for a brand new one already painted the factory color.
Why wouldn't you just buy a new one?
And even if you have some custom far out color... you are only painting the handle... its not like its the whole door.
I mean come on Rpeck you have all this:
and you ae too cheap to just buy a new handle and paint it??? It'll probably cost less than that fuel pump did.
Why wouldn't you just buy a new one?
And even if you have some custom far out color... you are only painting the handle... its not like its the whole door.
I mean come on Rpeck you have all this:
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*N* Stage 3 Turbo hybrid T04B
80PSI OPR W/ High flow oil pump
3" Racingbeat DP, Apexi Dual N1 Custom 3" Catback
Custom made 3" polished TID & cone intake setup
Apexi S-AFC
TurboXS Dual stage HP Boost controller
Greedy 720cc Primaries, 1000cc Secondaries
E.L. Prototypes ECU Upgrade
ACT Street/Strip Z65-HD00 Clutch W/SS line
14# Racing Beat Steel Flywheel
ReWired Walboro 255L/H Fuel Pump
TurboXS Blow off Valve Type-H
Halmeter AF30 Digital A/F Guage
Crane Cams HI-6 Fireball CD Ignition
KOYO 53mm Aluminum Radiator
17"X8" Sport Edition TK5's 225/45-R 215/45-F
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12-02-03, 08:52 PM
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I got 2 brand new door handles last year...they were like 75 each painted and took like an hour to install from start to finish - can't beat that. I also ordered new door window trim (that strip that runs along the bottom of the window that is always rusty). The new trim is plastic not metal and is coated with a clear plastic to maintain protection and shine...$30 each. I also got brand new JDM FTP's when I had the nose resprayed and mazdaspeed lip put on...all these little things make it look and feel almost like new
12-02-03, 09:20 PM
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I got 2 brand new door handles last year...they were like 75 each painted and took like an hour to install from start to finish - can't beat that. I also ordered new door window trim (that strip that runs along the bottom of the window that is always rusty). The new trim is plastic not metal and is coated with a clear plastic to maintain protection and shine...$30 each. I also got brand new JDM FTP's when I had the nose resprayed and mazdaspeed lip put on...all these little things make it look and feel almost like new
I got 2 brand new door handles last year...they were like 75 each painted and took like an hour to install from start to finish - can't beat that. I also ordered new door window trim (that strip that runs along the bottom of the window that is always rusty). The new trim is plastic not metal and is coated with a clear plastic to maintain protection and shine...$30 each. I also got brand new JDM FTP's when I had the nose resprayed and mazdaspeed lip put on...all these little things make it look and feel almost like new
That is where the handle in my old 91 broke. I just bought a used one.
I agree with Icemark, get a new one, get it painted. Your car sounds like it deserves it.
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12-02-03, 09:32 PM
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just buy it from mazda, they should come with some sort of warranty. I got them from mazda and it was 1 year. i might go back this winter and take my broken one in and get a spare.
12-02-03, 10:11 PM
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It's not the money fellas, trust me. I have enough $ into this car I could have bankrolled a Run Burger Run franchise by now. My mods list is mostly JUST what I have done under the hood 
The problem is I painted the car myself. I have left over paint, but it is a 4 part mix paint... and it will be very dificult to match the exact mixture of paint that the whole rest of the car is painted. Mixing a small qaunity of paint and getting it to match dead on will be very tricky. Plus getting out all the equipment, and putting a booth back up, cleaning the gun etc etc .. is alot of work for one damn door handle.
I am thinking right now, I might just put a keyless system in instead. Do away with the need for handles all together.
jon88se, where did you order those window strips from .. i could really use a couple of those though.
-Robert
The problem is I painted the car myself. I have left over paint, but it is a 4 part mix paint... and it will be very dificult to match the exact mixture of paint that the whole rest of the car is painted. Mixing a small qaunity of paint and getting it to match dead on will be very tricky. Plus getting out all the equipment, and putting a booth back up, cleaning the gun etc etc .. is alot of work for one damn door handle.
I am thinking right now, I might just put a keyless system in instead. Do away with the need for handles all together.
jon88se, where did you order those window strips from .. i could really use a couple of those though.
-Robert
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12-03-03, 12:14 AM
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I said *** it, i went out and did a fix, It feels stronger than original, i got a heavy duty piece of metal linking it .. i don't think it will ver give me problems again. If it does I will go to plan B, remote entry, or a new handle .. here is the pic;
-Robert
-Robert
12-03-03, 01:08 AM
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Ya, it looks shitty... that JB weld is messy crap I mostly just used it on the screw threads and heads to stop the screws from ever backing out.
I mostly just used it on the screw threads and heads to stop the screws from ever backing out.
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I just ordered everything (cept for the FTP's) from my local mazda dealer...it all arrived in about 5 business days to our shop (we have an acct. w/ them so the prices may be a little lower than ususal since we get a jobber price. no more than 15%). order those window strips now!! they didn't have many left!!
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I broke BOTH of mine about a month apart right before winter last year. Had to climb in through the hatch for awhile. I just ordered two new handles, about $90 a piece, and they come in the right color. If you fix them yourself, you don't have to worry about paint matchup, plus who cares what the fix looks like, noboby's going to see it. Just as long as it clears evrything inside.
12-03-03, 03:13 PM
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Thats not the paint chipping or anything off that handle, Thats wax that was in the seams. It will all wipe out when I get around to cleaning it up more, always looks worse with the flash from the camera relfecting off it.
As far as "how does it feel" It feels just fine .. infact it feels like normal. There is a spring on the other side of where I drilled, and if you drill to close to that spring the screw you add will hit it, I think that's why others have said it "feels funny"
I decided to go with this fix cause the door handle serves one purpose, openeing the door... I don't scimp on my car, but I do not see the need to spend $100 and 4 Hrs labor painting a new handle when I can fix it as good, if not better with no ill effects what so ever. It was a perfomance part, efeected handling, or appearance i would not have rigged a fix, I would have bought the part. But seems to how it now opens my door perfectly, I am happy.
-Robert
As far as "how does it feel" It feels just fine .. infact it feels like normal. There is a spring on the other side of where I drilled, and if you drill to close to that spring the screw you add will hit it, I think that's why others have said it "feels funny"
I decided to go with this fix cause the door handle serves one purpose, openeing the door... I don't scimp on my car, but I do not see the need to spend $100 and 4 Hrs labor painting a new handle when I can fix it as good, if not better with no ill effects what so ever. It was a perfomance part, efeected handling, or appearance i would not have rigged a fix, I would have bought the part. But seems to how it now opens my door perfectly, I am happy.
-Robert
12-03-03, 05:05 PM
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Thats not the paint chipping or anything off that handle, Thats wax that was in the seams. It will all wipe out when I get around to cleaning it up more, always looks worse with the flash from the camera relfecting off it.
As far as "how does it feel" It feels just fine .. infact it feels like normal. There is a spring on the other side of where I drilled, and if you drill to close to that spring the screw you add will hit it, I think that's why others have said it "feels funny"
I decided to go with this fix cause the door handle serves one purpose, openeing the door... I don't scimp on my car, but I do not see the need to spend $100 and 4 Hrs labor painting a new handle when I can fix it as good, if not better with no ill effects what so ever. It was a perfomance part, efeected handling, or appearance i would not have rigged a fix, I would have bought the part. But seems to how it now opens my door perfectly, I am happy.
-Robert
Thats not the paint chipping or anything off that handle, Thats wax that was in the seams. It will all wipe out when I get around to cleaning it up more, always looks worse with the flash from the camera relfecting off it.
As far as "how does it feel" It feels just fine .. infact it feels like normal. There is a spring on the other side of where I drilled, and if you drill to close to that spring the screw you add will hit it, I think that's why others have said it "feels funny"
I decided to go with this fix cause the door handle serves one purpose, openeing the door... I don't scimp on my car, but I do not see the need to spend $100 and 4 Hrs labor painting a new handle when I can fix it as good, if not better with no ill effects what so ever. It was a perfomance part, efeected handling, or appearance i would not have rigged a fix, I would have bought the part. But seems to how it now opens my door perfectly, I am happy.
-Robert
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