[sandre]

Hello all! I have recently been thinking about buying an '86 N/A rx-7. I live here in finland and I havent seen many of them around here. I have done some searching trough the availability of rx7's in finland and there really aren't many in the whole country. In the moment the only car suitable for me to be buying in the next 2-years wouldn't be an expensive one.(Sorry for the bad english :/ )
So heres a car that is located in my town(<-big plus) and I wan't to hear some opinions about the car by you people who certainly have more experience about these vehicles.
As a start you could advice me about the maintenance issues and what could be good to find out or ask about the car from the dealer. AND most importantly, is the price reasonable to your point of view?(of course this varies a lot depending on the country, taxing etc.)

Heres the technical specs: (will be updating this after I have found out more about the car.)

RX7 '86 N/A (Manual tranny)
-Out from the factory it had 110 kW / 150 Hp (<- according to the dealer)
-age: 123 000 km/76429 miles(ok? )

-AND the price:
4500 EUR = 6457.05 USD

Looking forward to hear from you soon.

phoenix7

looks clean.

Is that the lowest price you can find?? I know the supply is low in your area but that's a lot of money.

http://www.aaroncake.net/RX-7/buy1.htm

mothy

i would buy it, when i went to finland with my grandmother (shes full finnish), i didn't see to many jdm cars floating around, seems like a reasonable price for the rarity over there/mileage. ask for a compression test before purchasing it.

phoenix7

don't ask for it, do it yourself.

lax-rotor

iTrader: (1)

Wayyyy too much money for an N/A Kelly Blue Book puts a mint N/A at $4500 (US) max.

phoenix7

in the U.S.

We cannot value a car based on OUR supply. If there are 20 FC's in Finland then they'll be worth more than the 10,000 we have here.

lax-rotor

iTrader: (1)

Do'h Global market values pwn me.

phoenix7

well he could always try to bring one in from the U.S.

Not sure if the cost of shipping, customs and all that will be worth the savings due to the weaker Dollar.

[sandre]

Yes it actually is the cheapest one for sale in whole finland . Thanks for the link and the lax-rotors last message gave me a good laugh.

RB_eater

iTrader: (1)

I don't know the import laws in finland but he'd be better off importing one from elsewhere in europe rather than the states. At least he would have metric gauge.

phoenix7

but he could be SOOOO USDM!!!!!

[sandre]

Id say it would be the best to import it from germany (very typical to finns)
And theres an interesting fact that our taxing towards cars will be changing in the beginning of january 2008. The taxing of the purchaseprice(or hows it said ) will be depending on how much co2 the car will be putting out(new cars with tested co2 specs.) and for the old ones, which don't have co2 -emissions numbered, the taxing will be calculated by the mass and the power of the vehicle. AS an effect most of the secondhand cars will also lose value(simply because theyre old pollute alot or something.) There also might be interesting pig holes to go trought with lighter cars wich dont go in to the ctaegory of sport cars by their power

ericgrau

iTrader: (1)

Try a buyer's guide in the FAQ and/or google. You could also try a mechanic. It's hard to say without checking out the car's mechanicals in person.

Almost everything except the engine should be the same as other cars. As for the engine itself, it's very dependant on whether or not the cooling or oil systems have faced been abused (overheat, running low/empty, etc.). So get a buyer's guide or 2 and check it out: engine and everything else. The prices people are mentioning are for an RX-7 in excellent condition.

lax-rotor

iTrader: (1)

Is it bad that I understand the Fin better than some of the Noobs on here?

[sandre]

Theres many fd's imported from japan in finland. Pricing around 7000€(tax-free)
I'm not quite sure how the new taxlaws are going to change the situation with these. But i will find out about it soon. Somehow i personally like the fc-looks better . Can't wait to try that car and see how it feels. Im getting my driverslicense in march 2008 so i'll have to wait for a while. Also I earlier said that i don't know much about rotary-engines, I was wrong . I now realized that I only lack experience with rotaries and engines in general. Somehow i like rotary's simple design compared to those complex 4-stroke piston engines. Playing with rotary engine sounds like a lot of fun to me.

Finland=snow&ice+rwd=FUN

Napsterfreak15

If you dont know much about rotary engines I would not buy it. Unless you are willing to invest a little time learning about it. Then maybe. But for your sake i would try looking for a newer rotary powered car like an rx8 instead of getting one this old and having to put money into it and not knowing much about it

[sandre]

I really know about rotary engines but i mayv´be have put it in a way that you ppl think im a total noob . The thing is i don't know much about how to keep the rotormotor in a good shape and all. The other thing is that im 17 years old and don't have the money to buy a 50 000€ car here. As a conclusion i'd say i know alot about cars but i just lack experience with them and it's actually one of the reasons why "only" 130-150 in this vehicle(probably) is totally okay to me. And i am very eager to learn more about rotary engines.

[sandre]

Thanks for the opinion anyway m8.

Ex-Eg-Driver

iTrader: (1)

Dont let this dude scare you. All of us started out without the knowledge of a rotary motor. And the O.P. cannot afford a RX8 at the moment in time. Just take your time in learning the second generation RX7.

Basically just be prepared for more maintainence than a piston motor.

And try to knock that price down.

[sandre]

Thanks for your reply ex-eq-driver! I guess your answer included the basic information that i just needed to hear from someone and i definitely need to knock down the price. Well see what the new taxinglaw will do about it at the beginning of the year.

boostup

high price! high rarity in your country.... just know what youre getting into and be prepared to pay high for replacement parts and repair. in cali i paid almost 200 for just an altanator. trust me though it will be worth it!!!!!!!

[sandre]

Well thanks boostup! Ill now start to make a list of the things I will be asking from the dealer when i'm going to go to see the car soon.(after christmas)
Well, okay heres what i'm going to do:
-Asking for the maintenance book thingie(paper where you see whats done to the vehicle)
-Look the car more closely(for rust etc.)
-Ask some stuff about the engine(hard to ask about the condition cos the dealer will probably claim that it is a good shape anyway )
-If it's possible to run a compression test.
-Test drive and do suspension+brake test at a garage(maybe if a friend of mine has time for it)

Let me know if u think i forgot something

boostup

okay well before i bought my car before i joined this forum. i read and read and read some more. i understood the concept and maintanace also. I ended up buying a 86 s4 for 200 bucks from the origanal owner. he gave me many records and sceduled maintanace for the vehicle. the owner changed the oil every 3000 miles. Before you buy the vehicle deffinetly test drive it first cause they might be hiding something. go in the morning and tell them to start it cold check for large amounts of smoke on startup (a little is normal) pop the hood and check the radiator hoses and the cooling system. warping and old hoses may indicate that the car might have been overheated or not maintained correctly. if its a dealer most likely they wont let you take out the plugs and compression test it but below 80k on a s4 most likely will have lower compression cause the rotors in a s4 have lower compression than s5"S. check general stuff dude electrical, belts, see if it looks like its been taken care of. make shore if youre gonna spend that much on a n/a rx-7 its worth it. ALSO know your ****(not in a meen way) and a dealer will always charge more and sell crappy cars. There is also a posting in this forum that tells you what to look for when buying a s4 look that up it will be very usefull. BOOSTUP!!!!!!!!!!!

iamsisyphus

Check in the FAQ section of the 2nd Gen Section of this forum or Aaroncake's website. He has prepared a thorough and intelligent explanation of what to check and what to look for when purchasing an FC. Use it and it will steer you clear of a big mistake, or at least you'll know what your getting into.

As far as price, wait of few days for the exchange rate to change, then ask again. $6500 would be very expensive in the USA. How long do you have to work to get that much money? I spent a little less than one month's pay on my FC convertible.

Iamsisyphus

[sandre]

I was going to read the aaroncake's website and thanks for the brief anyways.
I am intended to learn my **** before I make any coclusions about whether to buy the car or not
In the moment the only real drawback about the car is it's price and i'm still looking for information whether the car is going to lose value at the beginning of next year and go talk to the dealer after I know what will be the case on this vehicles new taxing. For older vehicles we have a list of power to weight kind of measure, to get an idea about the emissions (just have to see where it lands ). Ill have to wait for the final conclusion and just ask some advice to get a clue about the taxing on this vehicle because it has a very rare type of engine.
Now im the knowledge that there will not be worry about the co2 rates it will be putting out for real