Is A Non Turbo Rx7 Still Fast?
 

i WAS LOOKING INTO BUYING A SECOND GEN. FOR MY

FIRST CAR, I WOULD REALY LOVE A TURBO

BUT MY FATHER SAYS THEY ARE TOO FAST

AND ARE PROBLY LESS DEPENDIBLE.

ARE THE NON TURBO'S STILL QUITE FAST/FUN?


THNKS!!

I'll build you a powerhouse motor for your N/A. ;) Or you can just buy my car for 3500.

Throw a nice interior in it, and hit it up with some paint and you'd be big pimpin.

i never drove N/As
my first car is a TII

but N/As still have the great handling and its pretty quick and unless you have proir driving experince a N/A is a good idea with my TII my first few drivieng experices were kinda scary.

I started on a FB /w a street port/header's and it was a quick little car, it had a 12A in it, so if you get a na FC I am sure you will have fun in it, and it will help you learn more about the car, and get used to them.

Also, NA's are more reliable then turbo's.

Ya, I have had a few scary experiences in my TII also, from being a little under-experienced... but I have learned alot more now.

It all depends on what you consider fast. My N/A FC is fairly quick, I have beaten many other low-end imports (civics, integras, Probe GTs), and can hang with nearly stock 5.0 Mustangs. The car is a blast to drive around on twisty back roads, and can out-handle 95% of most cars out there. My N/A has never really given me any reliablity problems that I havent caused myself. As far as the speed factor though, you will want more. Even modifying the N/A to its limits, its still will not be *that* fast. It all depends on how fast you want to go.

i WANT TO GO AS FAST AS I CAN WITHOUT LETTING MY FATHER KNOW ABOUT IT. HA HA!!

keep the revs up in the NA and you wont feel like its too slow...that and kick out any passengers ;)

HOW MUCH WOULD YOU THINK SAY..... AN 87 BASIC COUPE MODEL WITH 100,000 MI. IN FAIR CONDITION WITHOUT A SPOT OF RUST WOULD COST ME?

2500-3000 if there are absolutely no apparent problems...

but you could probably score 2k

You could pick up a 87 Turbo II for that price, an n/a should only run you 1500-2k max... Especially if it's a base...

TIS IS A CAR I LOOKED AT THE PAINT IS FADED AND THERE IS BRAKE PROBLEM. THERE IS ALSO SOME STRESS CRACKS, BUT COULD THIS BE THE PAINT?. ALSO SOME OF THE PANELS ON THE RIGHT SIDE ARE A SLIGHT SHADE DIFFERENT THEN THE REST OF THE CAR. COULD THIS MEAN IT HAS BEEN IN AN ACCIDENT. THE GUY SAID IT HAS A CLEAR HISTORY. HE IS ASKING 2500 BUT I THINK I CAN GET HIM DOWN TO 2000. IS THIS A GOOD DEAL? (THE ENDINE RUNS VERY STRONG)

Stop talking in caps. It's rather annoying to read through the caps...

What year is the car you're looking at, what model, what options does it have?

it is a basic coupe model, nothin is power but it does have a cd player he put in it. it has never seen winter (i live is maine) everything works that i can tell. it also has a bran new, may be a 3" exauast, i did not measure it.

it is an 87

1. GET AN N/A
2. GET HKS TRUE DUALS 35HP AT THE WHEELS ( KICK THE LIVING HELL OF STOCK TURBOS)
3. You will have good fuel economy and you can impress the hotties with 4 feet long flames and a great sound .... Is also a good mod to scare even the fearest SS camaro.
here is the link to the True Duals : TRUE DUALS

dude i have the GXL model and i paid 1400 from someone i knew!! it was always stored in the winter time and is spotless, i have many mods as u can tell!! but it still needs some TLC!! i love mine and it is fast especially at high RPMs!! HAVE FUN and PLAY HARD!! PEACE!! got mine to 135 mph before i let off!! scary at that speed in alittle car!!

I don't think many lt1/ls1's will be scared of n/a 2nd gens ;)

too answer the question: speed is all relative.

If you're just starting out in the world of cars I think a n/a FC is a great car to start out with. They aren't too complicated, and they are rather cheap. It's easy to work on, and you can build up some mechanical skills and confidence in yourself. You won't be running 12's anytime soon, but it's easy enough to break 14's on stock ports if you can drive. Maybe you'll get involved in scca and solo II competitions :)

I love how you can tell how old a person is, just by the fact that they type in all capitals. NA's are great cars. Speed never makes a car, the driver does. The FC Rx-7 is a great handeling car whether it is NA or turbo.---- You sound like your 4 years old with the "I WANT TO GO AS FAST AS I CAN." What you dont seem to realize is that haveing this car (as well as other sports cars) is a HUGE responsability. I reccomend you take a quick think and decide if a sports car is a good idea for someone like you. I dont want to spoil your fun, but if you dont understand the fact that you have a tremendous amount of power in your hands, you will die. No teenager is a good driver. If you do get the car. Hey! Awsome. Welcome to the club. Just please, be a responsibul driver, and keep the speed on the track. :)

come down to houston to some local scca competitions and you might be eating your own words ;)

something else you may want to consider--I am from New England, so I remember what the winters can be like. Simply put--you are likely to be immobile when the snow starts coming down with a RX7. With the amount of snow you can get up there, and the fact that a 7 is rear wheel drive, with not much weight above the rear axle, you will find yourself driving VERY carefully, if you can even get out of your driveway. Rex's are low to the ground, and you would be driving a rotary-powered snowplow.....as long as this isn't a problem, or if you have access to something else to drive when the bad weather comes, then I say go for it, but before you do ANYTHING about buying a 7, you should get a compression test done. If the seller isn't willing to let this happen, beware.

Oh--and before anyone tries to flame me cuz they can drive in the snow just fine, I am talking about how some parts of New England get snow storms that can completely bury a 7 as it sits in your driveway......so don't anyone go blowing a head gasket on me.....

Fine! Let me rephrase that :p: No new driver that has had no previous track experince. *shakes fist* You know what I ment!

Just thinking about my car being burried under snow.. dear lord.

you can buy mine for 700 its kinda quick you just need to paint it and get a new interior

To answer your question, yes N/A FCs are still fast. They don't have turbo speed (obviously), although they can be made to match one. It will take more tuning to get the same speed as a turbo, but it'll be much more rewarding. Also they have better handling than a turbo (well, let me explain that to you...they are much more fluid than a turbo which usually translates to better handling...I'm sure others will disagree, but it's true). Overall it's a much more invigorating driving experience...and observing the way that you speak (no offense) it's the best route to go anyway. They have MORE than enough speed than you could handle right now (once again no offense). Even seasoned drivers can have loads of fun with an N/A (I stand by them...I've driven various turbos besides just FCs, and nothing beats an N/A rotary engine to me). Good luck to whatever you do though. I say go for the N/A...you'll love it.

i'm a teenager myself (just about to graduate from it... i'm 19), and if there's anything i learned from driving it's that off the track, a fast driver isn't necesarily a good driver... it's usually the opposite. don't drive too fast and get yourself hurt. more importantly, be careful not to hurt other people who may be around you.

Not a flame but...
2.5 feet of western mass snow, and i was still kicking SUV's ass. Hehe.

Chains?

Chains are for wimps! New England winters aren't very impressive to say the least, if you don't drive like a 16 year old jackass you should be fine, but givin the way this guy talks, I'm starting to think maybe a minivan would better suit. ;)

i can coop with u SKYDIVR im from VT and the winters r harsh here!! thats why i store mine in the winter time!! i drive my Nissan Frontier or Company car in the winter always!! PEACE!! and yes speed isnt everything especially when ur just startin' out drivin'!! BE CAREFUL!!

Tell that to the guy who rolled his Suzuki Samurai in the snow as I was coming back from a ski trip last year. :p:

I bought my car for $150. I deflooded it. I drove it for four months until I blew a coolant seal (they all told me to replace that damn radiator hose)

My car + T2 swap will cost me less than most people's cars, but don't get any ideas - I have connections.

Stop typing in caps, are you even old enough to drive?

Gladly, I deal with enough snow back home, and I don't need no stinkin chains! :) Only time I'd ever use em is when I'm up in a mountain maybe.... and that's a maybe ;)

Ohh! So Fearless!

A Non Turbo is just as fast
 

Well last time i check Turbos lick balls. The turbo model of the rx7 at least the 2nd gen version was the biggest mistake mazda every made it was heavy and slow and handles like a truck Mazda added like 750 pounds to the turbo models and completly screwed up the Rx7 driving abbility if you really want something fast get a non - turbo and put the turbo conversion kit on it.

I hate when people register a new name just to post stupid comments. I also hate it when it's based upon incorrect information. God damn I hate canadians ;) Anyway, they added 250lbs, and they handled just as well, and adding a turbo kit will just add more weight. How sad....

News flash for everyone here...


N/As ARE NOT FAST! GET OVER IT!

Jarrett

you should rephrase that cuz like that you are wrong. Not ALL N/a's are slow what about a PP, J, or Bridge port N/a or the 787B for that matter.

Spoken like the *edited* that you truly are...

787B? Back to reality kiddo, thats not even part of this discussion.

PP, B-port, whatever... I challenge ANYONE to show me a 13 sec timeslip from a N/A WITH NO NITROUS! I will publicly apologize should that blessed event ever occur.

Until that day comes...

N/As are SLOW! LIVE WITH IT!

Jarrett

Watch out for the rat! N/a's are indeed slow*er* than turbo's, but it's pretty damn easy to hit 13's with them.

Ay, Rat's. Chill out man.;)

yea chill out guys!! my N/A hit 135 mph, so it doesnt matter at that fact!! its all in preference on what u like or want!! i think y'all went off the deep end here now!! the KID just ask about the N/A's!! turbos r good but only on 0-60, 0-100, 1/4mile, and 1mile times!! my N/A will have a turbo on it, but its gonna be AFTERMARKET much better!! PEACE y'all!!

I'm pretty satisfied with the speed on my N/A. I don't race (track or street).

I don't care if it takes longer to get to 60, to 80, to 100, and so on. It still gets there and can maintain it. The N/A is still as nimble as a turbo when hitting the curves.

If you plan on DRIVING the car, I wouldn't worry if you have an N/A or Turbo model. If you want to race, then look into getting a Turbo.



P.S. FC Turbos are slow compared to many other cars, live with it :D

Okay...

Apparently I am pissing in alot of peoples Wheeties right now.

So, allow me to apologize. Your N/As are fast, blindingly fast, they are a flash passing me on the street! The pavement rippling acceleration is beyond compare!...:)

Seriously though, I love N/As, I was just stating my opinion, which is exacly that, MY OPINION. I feel the Turbo is the better car. But I am not adverse to owning an N/A, being as how I already own 2 of them plus my TII.

Jarrett


There, I am sorry, NOW QUIT PMing ME!!!

Re: Is A Non Turbo Rx7 Still Fast?
 

Fast? No.

"Zippy", "quick", "nimble", "zesty", "energetic", "lively", "brisk", "mercurial", "spirited", or "vivacious"? Maybe... but fast? No.

as for fun.... oh yes, very. :)

-ZenFox

Hahaha, poor J-rat :) I love my N/A too, what'd I have to drive while my TII's dead without it!? Er, I guess I do have 7 other vehicles to drive. Anyway, I just don't think there's all that much potential packed away in the N/A's as compared to the Turbo, but if you want something that's reliable, damn sure don't get no stinkin turbo! :)

Re: A Non Turbo is just as fast
 

This is the funniest thing I've read all day.

Seriously, it's hilarious.

Re: Re: A Non Turbo is just as fast
 

No kidding...

Who would have thought that the extra weight comes from some components that actually help the extra power be delivered reliably.

But for the originator of the thread:
What's fast to you? Straight lines? Turns? Top speed?

Fast is relative. EXTREMELY relative.

i bought mine for $350 it ran at first but not now that was about a month ago. stoped runnin after a week