2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

No fan shroud, or bigger problem?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 25, 2005 | 08:27 PM
  #1  
johnnyg's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 552
Likes: 0
From: Brampton, Ontario
No fan shroud, or bigger problem?

I was tuning my 'new' engine tonight and after (mostly high) idling for at least 30 minutes, it started overheating. I shut it down just as the temp guage was starting to climb.

I haven't re-installed the fan shroud yet and I'm **REALLY** hoping that's the reason. I've called it a night, and I'll install the shroud tomorrow, but if anybody knows if a missing fan shroud can cause this, please let me know!
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2005 | 08:30 PM
  #2  
iceblue's Avatar
Passing life by
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,028
Likes: 2
From: Scotland, USA
What? Put that shroud on now! The fan does absolutly nothing without it. The only way the motor gets cooling at idle is the fan and you took that away. I realy hope you did not smoke your motor.
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2005 | 08:43 PM
  #3  
johnnyg's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 552
Likes: 0
From: Brampton, Ontario
Now ya tell me!

I shut it down 5 seconds after strange noises started coming from the rad area, so I hope she's okay.
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2005 | 08:51 PM
  #4  
bigdv519's Avatar
IFO Forced Induction Slo
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,315
Likes: 0
From: Houston
iceblue is right. The fan shroud is vital to the cooling system of the RX-7.
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2005 | 11:45 PM
  #5  
BlueS5's Avatar
Damn I miss having a RX7.
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
From: Fl
I had to get rid of my fan shroud due to the fact that the fan kept eating the shroud. There's still melted fan shroud plastic stuck to the fan. Never had a problem with overheating, and the other 2 owners that had it after me never had a problem with it before I bought it back.
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2005 | 11:53 PM
  #6  
iceblue's Avatar
Passing life by
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,028
Likes: 2
From: Scotland, USA
^ hey man your just down the road from me a lil ways got allot of friends in Navarre. Oh yea if the hurricane don’t hit us this SAT there will be about 200 of us meeting at the pcola pear as we do every now and then. Races will be deep up in Navarre if you don’t know.

Dood you got allot more issues then the shroud. You really need to get them fixed. As well if you don’t idle and sit you wont notice any issues. The fan is not used above 40mph. As well the S5 temp gauge is not linier and is very pore to judge off of. If it moves up to HOT this means hey you blew your motor I thought I would let you know.
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2005 | 11:57 PM
  #7  
J-Rat's Avatar
Alcohol Fueled!
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 11,093
Likes: 2
From: Hood River oregon
Originally Posted by iceblue
Dood you got allot more issues then the shroud. You really need to get them fixed. As well if you don’t idle and sit you wont notice any issues. The fan is not used above 40mph. .
Actually, the clutch fan is thermostatically controlled, so it doesnt differentiate from road speed..

Just a little FYI.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 12:14 AM
  #8  
BlueS5's Avatar
Damn I miss having a RX7.
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
From: Fl
Originally Posted by iceblue
^ hey man your just down the road from me a lil ways got allot of friends in Navarre. Oh yea if the hurricane don’t hit us this SAT there will be about 200 of us meeting at the pcola pear as we do every now and then. Races will be deep up in Navarre if you don’t know.

Dood you got allot more issues then the shroud. You really need to get them fixed. As well if you don’t idle and sit you wont notice any issues. The fan is not used above 40mph. As well the S5 temp gauge is not linier and is very pore to judge off of. If it moves up to HOT this means hey you blew your motor I thought I would let you know.
Cool. I work Saturday night. 9pm-6am. Otherwise I would be there, also, just bought back the car today, so it's not tagged or insured. That's later on down the road, after I get the headlights and seatbelts working. So for now it's nothing more than good looking stuff for the garage.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 12:15 AM
  #9  
BlueS5's Avatar
Damn I miss having a RX7.
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
From: Fl
^ Your talking about bayfront, right? I used to go there. You might know my car if you've been going there for a while, it was White w/ blue racing stripes and spoiler, rims. All that good stuff.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 12:33 AM
  #10  
iceblue's Avatar
Passing life by
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,028
Likes: 2
From: Scotland, USA
Originally Posted by J-Rat
Actually, the clutch fan is thermostatically controlled, so it doesnt differentiate from road speed..

Just a little FYI.
That is true it's engagment is heat controlled.
It has just been debated that around / 40 mph that there is enugh flow to free spin the fan and cool from air to air passing.

Thanks for the adidtion.


Yup blue I was talking about bayfront. I dont recall your car maybe I seen it. I am the one there in the green RX-8. Anyways hope you get your REX on the road soon.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 12:40 AM
  #11  
rrx777's Avatar
andrew
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
From: st.francisville,la
thermostatically = heat
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 01:18 AM
  #12  
BlueS5's Avatar
Damn I miss having a RX7.
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
From: Fl
Soon man, soon. But I won't be there on Sat's. I work over on Eglin.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 06:45 AM
  #13  
dsmrx7's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 315
Likes: 0
From: GUAM, USA
It should'nt be the shroud. I'm running mine without the shroud and it never overheated...
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 08:34 AM
  #14  
johnnyg's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 552
Likes: 0
From: Brampton, Ontario
Running without a shroud is one thing, but sitting still is - hopefully - another. I definitely do recall that the fan was never really spinning at full tilt...even as the coolant started boiling. I'm hoping that this is because there wasn't enough hot air flowing to the fan's clutch to kick it in.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 08:41 AM
  #15  
Aaron Cake's Avatar
Engine, Not Motor
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 29,798
Likes: 128
From: London, Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted by dsmrx7
It should'nt be the shroud. I'm running mine without the shroud and it never overheated...
Please don't post stuff like this. The fan shroud is REQUIRED. If you are not experiencing problems after removal, you are in the minority. Or your temp gauge is broken. Either way, it's very irresponsible to make others think they can just rip it off and be OK.

That said, it's nice to see yet another fan shroud topic. As if the existing 5,001 of them was not enough.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 02:36 PM
  #16  
johnnyg's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 552
Likes: 0
From: Brampton, Ontario
Oops...5,002 it'll have to be, I'm afraid

This I did search for this, but maybe not hard enough....What's the proper procedure for bleeding air out of the cooling system?

I guess it's been a long time since high school auto shop!

Last edited by johnnyg; Aug 26, 2005 at 02:41 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 10:54 PM
  #17  
BlueS5's Avatar
Damn I miss having a RX7.
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
From: Fl
Well, I alpologize if I'm mis-informing people, I'm just going off of my own experiences, and to date have never had a problem, and I know my temp gauge works, and then again, it may be due to the fact I rarely let the car sit. It's usually above 60mph at anygivien time when being driven.
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2005 | 12:30 AM
  #18  
NZConvertible's Avatar
I'm a boost creep...
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,608
Likes: 8
From: Auckland, New Zealand
If you don't believe that removing the shroud doesn't significantly reduce the fan's capacity, you're delusional. You should only have to look it it to understand that. Most of the air the fan is moving is drawn from within the engine bay instead of through the radiator. Airflow through the radiator will be significantly reduced, so the fan will have to work much harder to keep the car cool. This means the clutch spends more time engaged. Under prolonged low-speed conditions (idling, in traffic, etc), temps will eventually rise.

EDIT: That was a general comment, not aimed just at BlueS5.

Last edited by NZConvertible; Aug 27, 2005 at 12:57 AM.
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2005 | 12:32 AM
  #19  
BlueS5's Avatar
Damn I miss having a RX7.
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
From: Fl
Know a good online site I can order one from? Don't see one on ebay, guess I'll brake down and order one.
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2005 | 01:00 AM
  #20  
NZConvertible's Avatar
I'm a boost creep...
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,608
Likes: 8
From: Auckland, New Zealand
If you want to shell out for a new one, see Mazda. Otherwise look at the For Sale section or list in the Wanted section. People who've swapped to e-fans successfully won't need them anymore.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Jeff20B
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
73
Sep 16, 2018 07:16 PM
ZacMan
Build Threads
4
Sep 19, 2015 09:20 PM
msilvia
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
15
Sep 11, 2015 12:13 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:06 PM.