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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 09:36 PM
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CO New Gtus :) But...

Well I just picked up a 90 gtus brilliant black restamp and man I didn't realize not having a sunroof would be so awesome!

But anyways the car had been sitting for a year and so of course I bought a new battery, plugs, wires, oil change etc.

I got it home to only realize I had no lights! Nothing outside or inside. Im waiting for the weekend to check the fuses as that's my first guess but im wondering if anyone has experienced this and it was something more than just a fuse...

Comments and ideas would be helpful.

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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 09:49 PM
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Check the easy stuff first before looking for exotic explanations.
Fuses would be first.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 10:06 PM
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That's what came to mind. But I have this gut wrenching feeling the po jacked something up.

But for sure that'll be the first thing I check
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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 07:37 AM
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Check the headlight switch after the fuses. It could be burned out. The regulator in the alternator could have also taken a dump and spiked voltage, but that normally only blows out the headlights.
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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 11:20 AM
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murphys law says if you check the fuse, it'll be good, but if you DON'T you'll replace half the car because the fuse was blown...

since the headlights and parking lights are on different circuits, its probably the switch, but there are about 3 fuses to check
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Old Dec 22, 2011 | 06:18 PM
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Thanks guys I've got a set of new fuses and ill check em this weekend when I get the garage I don't feel like working in a foot of snow

Also, so I don't create a new thread

The po drilled the ignition out so I could drive it home because he lost the keys or some stupid reason. And I feel ghetto starting my car with a ******* screwdriver

So im kinda wondering what I should do next that wont kill my wallet.

The thing is I also have an s4 donor car that I DO have the key for. Can I just swap ignitions? Being two different series cars I would think it just wouldn't be that easy.

Any help would be awome. Id really like to drive my car to my garage and get rid of the po smell.
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Old Dec 22, 2011 | 06:26 PM
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Actually, I think it is just that easy.
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Old Dec 22, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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Hm well that gives me something else to do this weekend. Thanks for the help and quick response
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So an update and a couple more questions...

Um i got my other ignition out of my s4 and started plugging it into my gtus and ran into a problem. There is one plug that doesnt seem to be in the car.

Its a black wire with a red stripe and hve no idea where it goes or what it is. I looked in the fsm provided in the faq and couldnt find it where its at or where it goes...

Also there is a blue wire with a black stripe thats stripped and stray thats in a group of plugs that go to the ignition.

Pics are attached and sorry for the size i effed the second one up resizing it.

Help would be appreciated. Im hoping for a christmas miracle



Oh yeah disregard the other plug on the first picture i just need to switch the plugs on the male side
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 05:49 PM
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Oh and im trying to aquire a pair of gtus white fender decals. I ony saw them on mazdatrix and they seem to be out If anyone has the downlow lemme know
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 07:48 PM
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black wire red stripe goes directly to the starter. in fact, do yourself a favor. run a new wire Directly to the starter. this will bypass the anti theft bullcrap.
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 08:11 PM
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Thanks cygnus you wouldn't happen to know the other wire would you? I just went outside and rechecked I was looking at the pic I took wrong. The wire that's cut is black with a blue stripe
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 02:27 PM
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Well I got the ignition swapped and now she doesnt wanna to start. Im wondering if this black/blue wire is throwing me off. If not idk what happened

So much for my christmas miracle...
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 03:52 PM
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nope. i dont.
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 04:11 PM
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Okay thanks. Im hoping I flooded it and its not an electronic issue. I hate electronic bullshit...
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Okay well I went over and over and over the s5 fam wiring section and finally found something. The wire belongs to a plug called a starter cut relay... Whatever the hell that means..

I looked for this plug, looked for the wires in this same plug and am lost.. Nothing..

So if anyone has ideas, go for it. Thanks
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 04:38 PM
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press the peddle down to the floor while cranking. this floodclears the engine.
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 04:40 PM
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Yeah did that and nothing...
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 07:01 PM
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The B/L wire exits the ignition switch and heads for the starter cut relay.
This relay is where the security system interfaces with the starter, if security is tripped, this relay shuts down and your starter is dead.

From the relay the wire turns to B/G and goes to the clutch interlock switch and then, at long last, to the starter solenoid.
You could bypass all this and connect the B/L to the appropriate terminal downside of the clutch switch and see what happens.
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all that stuff is bypassed clokker when you run the black/red wire down to the starter directly.
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 10:18 PM
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Yeah that's what I did I ran the B/R wire straight from the ignition straight to the starter. She cranks just won't fire up.

The po has an efan setup but its to a toggle( I know one project at a time) but he did it pretty ghetto. Wires are spliced by the wonderful twist method and some got disconnected when I got mad,
Due to the wiring mess.
Anywho

could me breaking the circuit on the efan cause it to not start?
Idk im kinda just throwing stuff out there.
But if someone could share a pic of the stock s5 underhood fusebox and the general area I might be able to sort this mess out Ill share my "setup" and tell me what you guys think as soon as I can

Thanks guys I was scared of getting flammed to all hell
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check to see if you are getting fuel pressure. then check to see if you are getting spark.
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Originally Posted by Moksha
Oh and im trying to aquire a pair of gtus white fender decals. I ony saw them on mazdatrix and they seem to be out If anyone has the downlow lemme know
i just checked both colors are NLA from Mazda
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s
i just checked both colors are NLA from Mazda
Damn That makes me sad. But I guess ill go to a local sticker place and see if they can duplicate me one

Originally Posted by SirCygnus
check to see if you are getting fuel pressure. then check to see if you are getting spark.
Will do on saturday on my day off

Ill keep ya guys posted

For some reason when i try to log on to the 7club on my droid it says my ips banned. Idk i thought my account was banned but i get on my pc and everythings fine. So sorry admins if i seemed like i spammed ya. Im just plain confused now....
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Question

Sorry for the thread revival but I finally had some time to work on the 7.

I finally have everything good to go but now im not getting any spark but getting plenty of fuel.

Any ideas?
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