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Old Jan 18, 2002 | 09:23 PM
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Need some advice on body work, series 4 car

I have a 88 SE. It is in the garage now getting new exhaust parts and some well-needed TLC.

I am laying new red paint on her in two months, when I break it out of storage (I am starting it up every week to keep the motor lubed up)

Here's the help I need. The black moldings running around the car annoy the **** out of me. The door moldings peeled up on both sides and took me multiple tries to get them to re-adhere down. I know how to get them off and the smaller ones on the front fenders and rear quarters.

Is there any way in which to remove them from the front/rear bumpers? If so, I want them all gone and will fiberglass the whole thing in. Make a custom "shaved" look all around.

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Old Jan 19, 2002 | 09:45 AM
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Hey Audiofight do you want another 88 SE, maybe an extremely clean well running parts car? Have to sell her, and I would even deliver for free.
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Old Jan 19, 2002 | 10:45 AM
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I am doing the shaved moldings mod this spring. From what I've figured out, you have to cut the part of the molding that sticks out from the bumper. My Dad used to do body work and that was his only suggestion. He is doing research on what type of material to use as filler. He has come up with something with fiberglass in it. He doesn't want to use Bondo, he's seen the effects of a few years on the road with bondo as a filler. What are you gonna use?
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Old Jan 19, 2002 | 10:55 AM
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3M makes some great plastic bumper filler products for
plastic bumpers go to local body shop or local paint store
and tell them what you are trying to do and they should
be able to point you in right direction
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Old Jan 19, 2002 | 11:03 AM
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Hey dude,

Had the same thoughts for my car. Problem is the shape is molded into the front and rear caps. I was just going to paint the side moldings body color.

Gregg
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Old Jan 19, 2002 | 12:44 PM
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please take a look at this thread
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...threadid=37840
The owner did his and talks about not using bondo and what he used. And how he got everything off. etc etc.
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Old Jan 19, 2002 | 07:09 PM
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Remove the molding, If it on the bumper find out what kind of urethane it is (its listed somewhere on the inside of the bumper-should be PP/PR ect.) Cut a piece off that fits to the part your trying to fill (off an old bumper or anything thats the same type of urethane) Use a product called Duramix (certain kind for the type of urethane-PP/PRetc.-and what its used for) Then use that stuff like bondo to fill the remaining
gaps, and to level it off flush. On metal you'll have to use metal strips instead of urethane, and weld instead of duramix. This is how a professional (that knows is ****) whould do it
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Old Jan 19, 2002 | 08:12 PM
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My plans are to use a fiberglass filler of some sort. I was curious if anyone else has done this previously and how they removed the moldings without damaging the bumpers.

How much for the parts car? I live north of Bay City actually. Go to Ferris on the other side of the state.
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Old Jan 19, 2002 | 11:22 PM
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Fiberglass on urethane I like when I tell people the right way to do something...They do it their own way, an wonder why It didn't turn out right. Seriously though, the way I said Is the bast way. Why do something that will prob crack a couple years down the road??
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Old Jan 20, 2002 | 06:51 AM
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Fiberglass on urethane I like when I tell people the right way to do something...They do it their own way, an wonder why It didn't turn out right. Seriously though, the way I said Is the bast way. Why do something that will prob crack a couple years down the road??
Frost,

I will be using your ideas for the bumpers, but depending on the cost, it may not be needed to use that material on the sides. The Duraglass stuff in Node's recommended thread sounds like it works really nice on the groves left in the sides.

Check out that thread and tell me he didn't do a nice job. If that stuff is capable of that kind of outcome, then it is worth looking into. Haven't made a definite choice on materials yet, will finish that decision in the next couple weeks.
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Old Jan 20, 2002 | 10:07 PM
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Ok, Word from the wise though, Fiberglass is hard to work with and a bitch to sand. Good Luck.
-Frost
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Old Jan 20, 2002 | 10:11 PM
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Do NOT use fiberglass to fill in a urathane bumper. I guarantee it will crack. In fact, I will personally send you $100 Canadian (about $5 US) if it is still intact in 2 years.

As for filling in the moulding groves, best bet is to simply weld in new metal.

With body work, you can do it two ways: right and again. Choose the first one.
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