NEED HELP PLEASE!!!! fc with fd motor
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NEED HELP PLEASE!!!! fc with fd motor
ive been reading alot on the forums and everyone talks down about it but it still hasnt changed my mind about the swap. and for anyone who cares the only reason i am doing the swap is because i have a totaled FD and a 90 FC convertible (with 180,000 miles) that isnt running so i decided to do this. so please correct me if im wrong. all i need to do is get new motor mounts and it should drop right in??? im buying a haltech e6x to run everything. along with a t2 differential and lsd. i was told i need a custom drive shaft along with a tranny support by don marvel. my question for everyone is this really all i need???? if i need anything else or dont need some of these parts. PLEASE get back to me asap im going to try and start this project sometime in the next 2 weeks but i would like to finish in 2 weeks (hopefully no problems occur) thx for your time people i hope i get some help hahahaha
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You'll need to design an engine mount to install this engine. Additionally everything else (intercooler setup, downpipe, cooling system, etc.) wil also have to be custom.
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you'll need about $5000 in ecu to run the turbo's properly so count on a single as well.... oh - it doesn't drop in or bolt up. Use a TII tranny & driveshaft & rear end
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ive talked to alot of people locally that know there stuff. im going to run a 3rd gen motor and tranny. thats what the tranny support is for. and i dont really need a whole rear end i just need the differential. i dont mean to sound like an ***. i have some money but like i said before the only reason im doing the swap is because i have most parts. and i dont need to by a $5000 stand alone. the haltech e6x will hand it just fine. but please keep leaving me comments on whatever you have to say id like to do things right the first time around.
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you could sell the FD transmission and get a T2 with a new clutch. that way you can use a T2 driveshaft and have a working speedometer.
if your FD had a PowerFC you can get a plug and play kit for your S5.
if your FD had a PowerFC you can get a plug and play kit for your S5.
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Sell the damn engine and trans to an FD owner who needs it and get a good used 13BT and transmission designed for the FC that's drop in.
Use the extra money to get a standalone EMS or have a pretty good vacation...
-Ted
Use the extra money to get a standalone EMS or have a pretty good vacation...
-Ted
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If you haven't done the research and don't know what you're talking about - it's probably not a good idea to accuse someone of smoking some wierd ****. I'd ask what are you smoking but this could round 'n round all day long
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Hmm I think Reted has the best idea out there. however you can get mounts from motofab and SMP used to have some. You can also swap the INT iron hehe. But yeah thats about it which tranny are you using?
I been thinking / pondering for a while every now and then to jsut power the stock FD ECU and wire up the FD coils. It should work jsut fine unless something in the dash section of the ECU would limp mode it :-/
I been thinking / pondering for a while every now and then to jsut power the stock FD ECU and wire up the FD coils. It should work jsut fine unless something in the dash section of the ECU would limp mode it :-/
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Or maybe everyone that starts realizes what they got themselves into. I consider the minimum required tools for a swap that isn't a true BOLT IN to be a TIG welder, chop saw, jig saw, 4.5" grinder. People probably get the motor in the bay still on the hoist when it hits them, "****! I need to build motor mounts, and tranny mounts, and intercooler piping and intake piping and exhaust systems and wiring and fuel and blah blah blah blah" and then they quickly start pumping the hoist like a madman and 2 minutes later there is an add in the 3rd gen section that no FC owner will ever see.
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actually i have the tools to do the swap. a rotary expert 3 blocks away and 2 friends that have built 5 or so rx7's and im helping one build a motor as we speak (for a few weeks now). so cut me some slack here. by the way thanka ROEN. that site helps alot. i needed a general idea on how much it will actually cost. so no more talking ill just post pics in the next couple of weeks.
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actually i have the tools to do the swap. a rotary expert 3 blocks away and 2 friends that have built 5 or so rx7's and im helping one build a motor as we speak (for a few weeks now). so cut me some slack here. by the way thanka ROEN. that site helps alot. i needed a general idea on how much it will actually cost. so no more talking ill just post pics in the next couple of weeks.
If you really want to do this swap keep the engine, but get a TII drivetrain instead. First of all you'd be doing the 3rd gen community a favor by selling them a tranny. Second of all, the FD engine bolts up fine to the TII tranny. Thirdly, the TII drivetrain is designed for the FC, the car you're about to swap the engine into. Get my drift?
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actually i have the tools to do the swap. a rotary expert 3 blocks away and 2 friends that have built 5 or so rx7's and im helping one build a motor as we speak (for a few weeks now). so cut me some slack here. by the way thanka ROEN. that site helps alot. i needed a general idea on how much it will actually cost. so no more talking ill just post pics in the next couple of weeks.
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Nah...
I'd call a 20B swap "ambitious"...
The 13B-REW swap is just a royal PITA...
I just offered the "best" option to get the most out of the situation and get the car up and running in the least amount of time.
If the OP is dead-set on completing this swap, then they really should not be asking questions but just dive into the project right away.
The questions that were asked originally came across as the OP didn't know what they were getting themselves into?
Completing such a swap "in 2 weeks" makes me skeptical...
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Convert to non sequential and buy the $200 - $300 adapter to do the swap, i dont remember who sells it but i know they do.
Get yourself a standalone, and figure out the plumbing.
Will the S5 waterpump housing fit on an FD front iron if you figure out the pulleys?
Will the FC oil cooler lines hook up to the FD?
I'd be more than willing to let you know what my friend does with his FC. He is building an 89 vert with a huge streetport REW with a T88.
Get yourself a standalone, and figure out the plumbing.
Will the S5 waterpump housing fit on an FD front iron if you figure out the pulleys?
Will the FC oil cooler lines hook up to the FD?
I'd be more than willing to let you know what my friend does with his FC. He is building an 89 vert with a huge streetport REW with a T88.
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i think it's funny that you mentioned having a "rotary expert" right down the street, and yet you're here asking us questions on the forum....chances are if he's a real rotary experty, when you ask him...he'll tell you what everybody else has been telling you...it's not worth it....unless you're only goal is to be different.
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ok sorry sorry i didnt mean to dog on anyone. but everytime anyone asks for peoples opinion on here it seems that everyone just tells them how stupid they are and how rediculious it is. don marvel lives down the street if anyone knows who he is. and he has told me what i need to do the swap. i just wanted a second opinion from everyone to confirm everything. and i might get a t2 tranny........ but at the same time (i might be mistaken) a 3rd gen tranny and 2nd gen tranny are basicly the exact same just different covers. so whats the point?