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Old Apr 12, 2003 | 08:03 AM
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Question need assistance with PD replacement

I replaced the pulsation damper with a banjo bolt in my 87 GXL. I accidently started the car without putting the air duct for the throttle body and air-flow meter. The car started then immediately died. Tried again and it died. Then I figured since the air duct was off that's why it wouldn't run. Yesterday, I took the spark plugs out because it was flooded. I put new plugs in this morning and it wouldn't start at all. I even pulled out the EGI inj. fuse, cranked it a couple times...put the fuse back in and no luck. The car must be really, really flooded.
Am I doing something wrong? I made sure the hole in the banjo lined up with the fule pipe/hose.
Should I squirt oil in the top sparg plug holes?
..crapola...
any suggestions would be really appreciated.
thanks.
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Old Apr 12, 2003 | 12:42 PM
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It is probably really flooded. try putting a bit of oil in the housings. The banjo does not have to line up with anything it will work in any position as long as it was in there tight enough.
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Old Apr 12, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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I turned over the engine a few times an hour or so ago with the plugs out and noticed gas/oil dripping out of the leading (bottom) holes. I'm letting it dry out some more and will take a hair dryer to dry the plugs some more. I'll try putting some oil in there too.
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Old Apr 12, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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Yeah. Take all the plugs out and crank it for 15 seconds, do that 4 or 5 times. Dont even waste your time if you have a weak battery.
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Old Apr 12, 2003 | 03:55 PM
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I noticed when I messed with my AFM that my car would stall every time I tried to start it. Instead of unplugging the AFM connector, I unscrewed the screws that keep the post on. By doing this I accidentally unplugged some connector and I have been having trouble ever since. Try checking that out.
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Old Apr 12, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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Aha!! it works! it lives!!! woohooo!!!
I did the trick where you add transmission oil in the bottom leading plug holes (not the top ones). put the fuse back in. started on the first try! it smoked for a long time with a bouncy idle and a high idle. finally, it settled down. took it for a spin..no more smoke. might be my imagination, but it feels like it has more power and it's smoother? banjo bolt the cause? now I need to file a complaint about the pulsation damper.
thanks everyone!
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Old Apr 12, 2003 | 06:40 PM
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lol - i need to file a complaint as well. I just put a new one in my TII yesterday. That makes 2 now. My 86 n/a leaked like a mo fo!
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Old Apr 12, 2003 | 07:12 PM
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where does one go about filing a complaint??? the pd in my car caused a fire to break out...
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Old Apr 12, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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File a complaint about the PD (courtesy of RETed's site):

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/oscrip...Q/VOQ/voq1.cfm
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Old May 4, 2003 | 11:48 AM
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yo i'm going to have to replace my PD in the next 2 weeks, but i'd rather not pay 150 for a new one. is there any side effects to using a bolt to plug it up? and if not what kind of bolt do you guys use? any sugestions on where i can get the right bolt?
Thanks,
Andrew
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Old May 4, 2003 | 12:31 PM
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it has to be a banjop bolt you cant just use any old bolt cause the fuel has to flow threw it
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Old May 4, 2003 | 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by Rotarykid7
yo i'm going to have to replace my PD in the next 2 weeks, but i'd rather not pay 150 for a new one. is there any side effects to using a bolt to plug it up? and if not what kind of bolt do you guys use? any sugestions on where i can get the right bolt?
Thanks,
Andrew

Check this out:

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=114684
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Old May 4, 2003 | 05:05 PM
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none of the pics on that link work? all red X's
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Old May 4, 2003 | 05:05 PM
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none of the pics on that link work? all red X's
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Old May 4, 2003 | 05:21 PM
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You want to avoid the Banjo bolt band aid, as it will affect fuel delivery and fuel line life.

A PD is found on almost very fuel injected car for the last 20 years... if they could build cars without them they would.

A Pulsation damper is critical to the proper function of any EFI setup. Rapid cycling of the fuel injectors and fuel system components in a running engine combine with the non-compressibility of the fuel; and create high frequency pressure waves in the rail. These pressure waves can cause substantial variation in the fuel delivered by the injectors; causing numerous running problems that are difficult to trace, in addition to increasing stress on the fuel pressure regulator and fuel lines.
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Old May 4, 2003 | 05:28 PM
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nicely said Icemark, I've been trying to get that across to people.....and if you have a TII it could cause your mixture to lean out, and if your already lean (not strong enough fuel system) then boom, adios apex seals
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Old May 4, 2003 | 09:17 PM
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Yep... too many people are trying to do the short cut and use that lame banjo bolt because one person tried it and didn't blow their motor.
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Old May 4, 2003 | 09:26 PM
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I will now make a point of not recommending this mod in the future. Thanks for the heads-up.
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