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Old Jan 2, 2002 | 04:49 AM
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The way I'm handling fuel is to use TII injectors all the way around, and then tuning them in with an S-AFC. It's the expensive way to go, but the most versitile...

If anyone cares, here's what I'm doing:
-88 TII turbo and manifold from 10AE w/ported wastegate (VERY important on 86-88 turbos)
-VtekEater style adapter w/smog fittings
-Stock TII intercooler converted to front mount
-Some type of BOV (Greddy TYPE-S or the like)
-Custom downpipe to Bonez Cat w/O2 Sensor fittings
-TII injectors
-TII fuel pump?
-S-AFC
-Coolent tapped from upper and lower heater hose
-Oil from nipple added to oil cooler, draining to nipple installed on oil pan
-AutoMeter boost gauge

Currently, I am waiting for next week to order some parts from Mazdatrix, and in the meantime, removing my oil cooler to have it repaired and a nipple added, and soaking down teh stock manifold bolts with penetrating lube for about a week...
I would really like to have more info about that ported wastegate...

But MasterRX is right, i should swap whole engine anyway....i already did TB mod on that turbo TB....

Aaron...how would u convert stock IC to front mount ??
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Old Jan 2, 2002 | 05:08 AM
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Originally posted by hIGGI


I would really like to have more info about that ported wastegate...

But MasterRX is right, i should swap whole engine anyway....i already did TB mod on that turbo TB....

Aaron...how would u convert stock IC to front mount ??
Enlarge the wastegate hole by a few mm to help with boost creep.

To make the stcoker IC to a front mount, just hang it out front in the grille, and have someone make the piping for you. I don't see why anyone would do this, the stock IC's are pretty damn small.
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Old Jan 2, 2002 | 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by turborotarypower
false statement, i have seen 28psi on a factory 12a with high compression rotors, factory apex seals and t04 60-1 turbo. as long as it ain't too lean or too rich it won't blow!
You might want to mention the RACE GAS used with that kinda boost???



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Old Jan 2, 2002 | 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by VtekEater
Hey Aaron it looks like youve planned ahead wich is good, but
maybe you should tap the oil feed line from the oil pressure sending unit wich might be easier.
Someone else suggested that, but I'm not sure if I'll go that route. If I tap at the oil cooler, I get a good supply of oil that has not gone through the pressure regulator yet. So the pressure will be a little higher, but I will not deprive the engine of a little oil...

Also get an EGT gauge with all that stuff as well, so youll be able to tell if your running lean or not.
Yeah, I'll add that to the list.

BTW what type of smog fittings are there??? Don't really remember any on the stock N/A manifold.
Both the NA and the TII have an air tube that directs air from the airpump to the manifold. They are in different locations on teh TII and NA.

To make the stcoker IC to a front mount, just hang it out front in the grille, and have someone make the piping for you. I don't see why anyone would do this, the stock IC's are pretty damn small.
I will be having a welder relocate the outlet to the top of the end take instead of the side. The TII intercooler is actually pretty efficient when front mounted. The stock location is terrible. I am using the TII unit because I got it cheap.
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Old Jan 2, 2002 | 12:55 PM
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It's been a while since I had any smog things on my car but doesnt the airpump shoot air into the cat??? Just a little confused because I just looked at the old stock N/A manifold and there was only a connection for the o2 sensor.
BTW the stock intercoolers do suck even as a front mount but it will help, I know because I had to use one when I first started out and my turbo project, and my intake temps where really high even when you put it in the front, but again it will help

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Old Jan 2, 2002 | 04:03 PM
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I could have sworn the NA had an air tube in the manifold, but I could be wrong...no wait, I just looked at a gasket and I'm right. It's on the engine block, and blows air into the manifold. According to the manual, it operates up to 2500 RPM, at which point the ACV switches over and directs air directly to the cat.

As for the intercooler, it will probably serve my purpose as a front mount. I may go to a larger unit if I find out the stock unit doesn't cut it...
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Old Jan 2, 2002 | 04:32 PM
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Oh your talking about that thing..Sorry didnt realise sooner but my 91 motor didnt have that and my friends 88 did, but now I know what you mean.
now about that, you see in order for the turbo to fit you will have to get rid of the AVC and block it of by using something like quick steel or JB weld, now I know your gonna say why not just use a block of plate right??
Well the turbo would sit like not even a 1/4 of an inch away from the lower intake manifold, so the block of plate from mazdatrix wont work because is just to thick to work there incase you wanted to use that.
Just letting you know what to take care of so you wont have any trouble.
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Old Jan 3, 2002 | 12:45 PM
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So the turbo does not clear the ACV? Hmm...That's a problem as I will need to pass emissions....Guess I'll have to wait until I have everything measured up before I deal with that stuff...Or I'll just have a custom turbo manifold made to space it farther away from the lower intake...I guess eliminating the ACV isn't that big of a deal as I can simply redirect the airpump to the cat and then use a THIN metal plate to cover the ACV holes...
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Old Jan 3, 2002 | 09:44 PM
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I see you are in Ontario, don't you love our new emmision laws?
Best off to get rid of the AVC, and fully dump ALL of the air straight from the A/P to the cat when you go for your test, also doesn't hurt to lean things out a bit either.
Lots of fresh air in the exhaust will diffuse the pollutant concentrations!
Works like a charm.
Then take it off untill next year.
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Old Jan 3, 2002 | 10:30 PM
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Ya just run the airpump straight to the cat, hell when we still
had emissions here in florida my car passed with only one cat and no ACV
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Old Jan 4, 2002 | 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by RETed

You might want to mention the RACE GAS used with that kinda boost???



-Ted
nope 94 octane pump gas!!!!
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Old Jan 4, 2002 | 11:23 AM
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the car originally had an ambient system,later on we changed it to fuel injection and used alcohol since we didn't have the proper material to setup an intercooler for the car with the race being the next day!
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