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Are NA 2nd Gens bad for daily transportation and maintainence hogs ?

Old Jul 27, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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Are NA 2nd Gens bad for daily transportation and maintainence hogs ?

Hi everyone, i want to get another rx7 and trade or sell mine but the problem is my dad wont even let me get another rx7 so i may have to either not have an rx7 or not goto school and move out.

Which would you choose ? He says they are money pits and bad for daily transportation because they are such maintainence hogs, do you all agree to this ?

It really pisses me off because he wants me to buy like a slow *** civic that i wont even like for all the money I'll sell my car for , after I put about $5000 invested and about 50-100 hours of hard work.... and in my opinion who the hell would want a civic after doing all that work and spending all that money ? Its not cutting your losses, its like taking a kick in the nuts everytime youre driving the civic.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 09:06 AM
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I use my 86 GXL as a Daily Driver. I havent really seen any problems with maintainence. It hasnt cost me any more than any of my other cars to drive. I think the main problem with most people and rx7s is they drive the **** out of them, I drive mine like I have some sence, and it gets great gas mileage as long as my foot isnt in it. I will say that moving out because of a car and not going to school would be a huge mistake that you would very soon regret.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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I wish there was some way to convince my dad that having an rx7 would not be a bad thing, he thinks they are " impractical " and it about makes me want to punch him in the face because he doesnt know a damn thing about cars to begin with.

He can only talk about my car being a waste of money because i cant drive it after investing all my money in it, but a clean rx7 that has no problems will NOT be a money pit, but of course he has to compare to my car that has had $4000 invested into it.

It really pisses me off, i have like no life here in Georgia, no friends, nothing basically other than this computer. So why spend my money on something that he wants but i dont ?
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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They're going to be higher maintainance than a civic. There's no way around it. It's not so much that it's a 7, It's just an old sports car. There's no such thing as a 15-20 year old car with no problems. It depends how good of a car you start with and how hard you push it. 90% of the maintainance and problems my 88 GTU has had were due to me driving the **** out of it at the drag strip or actual race track.

Is there any way you could have two cars? Honestly, maybe you're better off getting a civic as a daily and then the 7 for cruising. I stopped daily driving my 7 recently b/c I was commuting 25 miles each way to work and putting a lot of wear on performance parts.

If you really want to daily drive a 7, tell him that it's a learning experience. Tell him that if you can take care of a 20 year old car you can take care of just about anything. I'm 21, I've owned my 7 for two years and I've become so much more knowledgeable about cars and I've learned what it truly means to take pride in owning something.

I've personally made a ton of friends through car clubs etc. It's a great support system (although there's about no chance of meeting available chicks directly through car stuff).

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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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see the thing is , he doesnt even want my car to be loud, any loud exhaust and he says its a "gangster/****** car" (dont call me racist im quoting what he said).

He wants me to have somethign with minimum amount of money put into it and all, i just find it stupid for him to say all these things about things I like.

I remember when i was younger, he bought a 1965 mustang convertible for $6500 in like 1987 or so and didnt realize the floorboards were so rotted you could see the ground when you were driving, until after he bought and paid for it. I think by far my car is nowhere as bad as something like that, with inflation that $6500 would now be like $8-10,000

and about the pride thing, ive owned my car for 2 years and only was able to put 400 miles on it the whole time ive had it, and ive done so much work and put so much into this car, i just have a passion for them after learning everything i have, i guess he cant understand that.

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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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Lets see.

Option 1: A Car
Option 2: Free room/board, education

Not a hard choice...
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 09:43 AM
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well put it this way, an na is going to much less maintanence than a turbo
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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Is this guy paying for all your crap? I mean, housing, food, school, insurance, any of that? Normally I'd you're, what, 23? You can do whatever the hell you want with your money, you're a legal adult. But if he's paying for any or all of the above, I'd grovel at his feet and thank him for letting me stay under his roof, and buy whatever car he wanted me to buy.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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Also, my GX is my daily driver, and it's been totally fine for me for the past year.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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They're 15+ year old cars. ANY car that old is going to have problems.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 10:04 AM
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I just bought a 2nd Gen that will be my daily driver. BUT...

1. I drive < 100 miles/week
2. I don't commute
3. I drive like the old man I am
4. I expect to have minor issues from time to time and am willing and able to pay to fix them


When I was using a '91 vert as my daily driver a few years ago and driving 1500-2000 miles each month, I learned that it wasn't a great idea, so I got a newer car. The question is, what are your expectations?

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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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I have to pay for the school myself, and all that extra money i save, well i dont want to buy an expensive car, most id spend is like 900 on a civic and keep saving for two years to get an rx7 or just get no car at all , but then id have no life other than school and working


two days a week id be driving 70 miles (alltogether round trip) so thats like 140 miles, and the other days id only be driving to work which would be closeby, so in a month probably 2 tanks of gas or less.

My expectations are for the engine not to blow up on me and only have to do minor maintainence, spark plugs/wires, waterpump after a while, maybe a catalytic converter depending if i pass emissions or not etc.

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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by wtfdidusay82
but then id have no life other than school and working
Let me fill you in.......I hav an RX-7 TII and N/A and many parts cars.......I have no life other than WORK, Ive been done school for years....if you want a life - don't buy these cars.


Originally Posted by wtfdidusay82
two days a week id be driving 70 miles (alltogether round trip) so thats like 140 miles, and the other days id only be driving to work which would be closeby, so in a month probably 2 tanks of gas or less.
No, trust me, if you buy this car you'll urn WAYYY more gas then that. You end up finding excuses to drive anywhere.

Originally Posted by wtfdidusay82
My expectations are for the engine not to blow up on me
........so why buy a car that has engine rebuilds listed as reguar maintenance? (no exactly, but far far far far more than ANY other engine type ever made)

and only have to do minor maintainence, spark plugs/wires, waterpump after a while, maybe a catalytic converter depending if i pass emissions or not etc.
In order to get one in that decent of shape plan on spending $3,000.

Good luck!
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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Get a miata, 29 mpg. Newer, practical as personal transport, more reliable. Or is it a problem that it is "Gay"?
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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I bought a 91 N/A with 100k on the clock about a year ago. When I took it to my mechanic to have it checked out before buying, he told me that the engine's "tired" and it oughtta last about another 20k. So far, I've taken it to the track twice and beat the **** out of it in between, because I was planning a TII swap....I f-in' couldn't kill it.


It's been my daily driver/touge battler for over a year now, and the 20k is coming up fast. I regularly hear the redline buzzer and other that a puff of smoke now and then, the FC never gave me any problems.

I had the engine rebuilt and sold the car to a friend, but it really didn't NEED it yet. Now that it's rebuilt, I personally think it may have been a little more powerful with the old motor. Maybe it's still "breaking in".

In My experience, and N/A FC is pretty damn reliable.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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Get a miata, 29 mpg. Newer, practical as personal transport, more reliable. Or is it a problem that it is "Gay"?

Miatas are only gay if you've never been smoke by one. Once you've either driven one or had one pass you at the track, the gayness ceases.

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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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[QUOTE=pjh]

When I was using a '91 vert as my daily driver a few years ago and driving 1500-2000 miles each month, I learned that it wasn't a great idea, so I got a newer car.

[QUOTE]

Actually, the newer car was a '99 Miata that I'm now selling. The car never made me feel "gay", but I just couldn't warm to it like the 7.

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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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Sell your car, make sure you study hard, become a professional, find a decent job then buy a brand new RX-8 fully loaded.

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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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you live in GA i know a guy who can either hook you up with a newer 7 or rebuild yours for a good price drop me a PM and well help you out best we can.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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If it is at all financially possible, get a 7. Do it while you're young, before you have a wife, kids, health problems, or a really busy career that will keep you from it.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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Sell your car, make sure you study hard, become a professional, find a decent job then buy a brand new RX-8 fully loaded.
heh, you could be like the person in of the commercials for a technical school here in south florida

it starts out with some guy driving a silver RX-8 that seems fully loaded, and he parks and gets out to say something about how he got his bachelors in 3 years...lol

anyways, do what you want to do, but in the end you have to look into the future and think of the possibilities of what could happen.

I am right now driving my 2nd FC, the first one my parents got me and it was in bad shape, now if you car was like my vert and had to spend 6k just to get it into a good running shape, sell the beast and get a civic, i wish i had the chance to do that but all of the civics down here were in worst shape than my vert at the time. I eventually got the vert running alot better with a 2nd motor and pretty much all brand new parts....minus an interior and a leaking vert top.

I sold the car thinking im going to get a 240sx and use that till i find another rx7 that was at least in decent shape, i soon then found out my mechanic was selling his old DD FC, and i soon bought it with the money ive earned and the money from selling the vert.

and to put another note, my parents sort of HAD to like the vert....since they did buy it for me, and prohibited me of selling it, until i blew my head off at them bitching about how they know nothing about rx7s and where to find them lol. They were kind of awe-struck when they saw my new FC (in sig)

i dont mind driving my new FC, getting 21mpg w/o a tuneup, im hoping to get better mileage when i actually get enough money to do a tuneup, i drive about 80-100 miles a week, to school and work and then back home.

The way i see it, is that you can spend your money wherever you want to spend it...but if i wasnt paying room and board (rent with the parents because im looking for an apartment to live in right now) id do what Gatlin said and be groveling at thier feet.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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They're going to be higher maintainance than a civic. There's no way around it.
No, that is incorrect.

All things equal, (say two 20 year old cars- one Civic and one RX-7 both within 5 years of age of each other) The Civic will have a much higher monthly repair bill than a RX-7.

And its been my experience that any Honda product with over 60K miles has a higher annual service cost than any Mazda product (piston or rotary) with over 100K miles on it.

And don't even get me started on how crappy I think Honda reliability is. My comments are based only on my personal experience.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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Daily driver '88 GXL. 20-60 miles a day, 20 mpg.

I've had it from 105k to 111k so far and I've replaced a failed rear shock (lack of dust boot) and the tires (dry-rotted from sitting in a yard for a year) in these 5 months.

I bought the '7 because it was the cheapest car I could find that wasn't a Ford Escort and I don't see any reason this couldn't be my daily driver for the rest of my life.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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I have been DD my 88 SE for about 30k miles over 6 years. I've replaced the exhaust(RB RoadRace Dual - $1250), Clutch & pressure plate, Intake(K&N - $250), Alternator (SilverRoter S6 100 amp - $125), Other than a mystery water leak & injector cleaning, a new battery and another set of tires... thats been about it for maintenance. The exhaust is wonderfully quiet for idle & normal driving and exciting when the throttle is open. The only real problem I had was caused by a corroded intake manifold ground.

I just got ANOTHER speeding ticket. 86 in a 55. I had consumed a few intoxicating beverages.. more than usual 'cause my buddy bought me a few shots after work... So I ended up doing the walk down an imaginary line for the Officer. Fortunately I was 4 blocks from home & the Officer told me it was my lucky day & followed me home. The ticket was $208.50.

I'm now driving my mom's '02 Honda Accord 6 cly. I'm going to leave the '7 parked & do a full restoration upgrade as the '7 was my fathers "baby" and he passed away in 2001.

Fix up your current '7 as a project.. like you already have started.

Appease your parents - they are truly looking out for you - get a stupid pathetic little POS car to drive every day & beat up on. Then you can shower your '7 with all the love you believe it deserves. Keep your interest in your project as a driving force, but don't think that you can buck your parents & hope to make it without an extreme amount of grief.

That's my best advice... I'm 39 years old & never married & no children... I'm still basically a kid, but I've traveled the world & fought with my parents too. Your parents are your best allies or your worst enemies. Get a cheap-*** beater to drive & then Luv on your '7.

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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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see the problem i have is the car isnt even stored down here, its actuallly being stored in Rhode Island and i just recently found out the car has been tagged because its not suppose to be where its at , so i just found out it may be going into a garage that will be locked up..

i do have an option to get a clean rx7 for 900 in RI that is running and inspected that only has a worn clutch from what im told, but even getting that is a pain in the *** because of how my father is.

i would have swapped everythign from my car onto that (exhaust etc, and just keep my rebuilt engine as a spare) but my dad is just hardheaded when it comes to me having an rx7 so its either i get a cheap beater car and keep mine, or sell mine and have wasted all my time and money ( i really dont want to sell it though, but it becomes a burden worrying about how the car is when its 1000 miles away) so i really want to have it back, it just sucks
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