stillmatic

Sup,
This is probly a stupid question but... I have a feeling that my rx7 is not a GXL...

I bought it about a month ago from a guy who bought it from the original owner. The original owner bought it for his daughter who didn't like the stock paintjob and got a shitty *** silver paint job... Painted over everything that indicates my car is a Mazda rx7... Under the hood are the stickers that says my car is a 1986 Mazda rx7.

On the far left sticker, it says:
Model Rx7

Does not say anywhere that my model is a GXL. I imagine that I could peel some of the peeling paint back enough to see. (on the back right side) But I really do not want to. Is there a 86' rx7 that's just that, not GXL not GTU not Turbo not Convertible. Just plan old RX7?..


I imagine that my 86' is a GXL, but could I use the car ID number to find out on a web site somewhere?

And, if it is not a GXL what does that mean for me? Is the wheel bolt space different then the GXL? Is the front bumper different? It all looks the same but I bet somewhere the GXL is a lot different... Most stuff that I want to buy is for a GXL. IE Rims...


Thanks
Still

Kai

check out this page of the '86 dealer brochure on Aaron Cake's website and compare the features listed to your car, you should be able to figure it out pretty quick.
http://www.aaroncake.net/RX-7/brochu....asp?Number=29

blue 88

does it have 4 or 5 bolt hubs and are the front brake calipers 4 piston or 2 piston, does it have AAS and all the power options the model that woesn't a gxl, gtu, turbo, vert. was a gx call up mazda and give them the vin and ask them what the model is, if that doesn't work check your ownership it should tell you what it is

rx_7_driver

sounds like u got an se (cheapo model) what options do u have? ps,pw, sunroof? ect


-Shawn

Kim

Hmmm now im thinking that my car is a gxl and not a sport, allthough mine came with the aero package, But it doesnt have aas,- a/c,-cruisecontrol, leather steering wheel and im not sure if it has LSD how do i find out whether it does or not???
Otherwise it has all the gxl features and the rear seats.

stillmatic

My car has a sunroof, (not electric) had the option for power windows etc. and has a leather steering wheel. Also the wheels are 5 lug. Plus its not power steering...

DAN CARWIN

I have never seen a rx7 2nd gen with a manual sun roof? hmmmmmmm makes you wonder..

stillmatic

hehe lol early edition i guess... I have no clue... But yeah its manual sun roof pop off (slides out) mmm other then that, I thinks its a gxl because its 5 lug wheel. Dual exhaust etc. Umm, does not have the compartments in the back but does have the holes for them, all I would need to do is buy a kit or something... Its a 5 speed of course, nothing powered. (locks, window, seats, steering, sunroof) all manual.
There is a sticker where the driver door lock is at that says my car weighed in at 1750lbs... Found that interesting.

But what makes a GXL a GXL? Is it just where everything is powered? Cause I think the engines are identical etc. And I have seen 4 lug wheels on 86's.
hmm

Evil Aviator

It's aftermarket. None of the FC's had manual sunroofs as an option.

Pretty much it's just where everything is powered. The GXL was the "luxury" model. The AAS is probably the easiest way to identify a GXL. While a lot of people remove the AAS, very few have added an AAS to another model, so if it has AAS, then it is most likely a GXL.

There's no telling what your car is after 17 years of unknown modifications. It could be a base model with a 5-lug conversion, or maybe a GXL that was totalled and rebuilt without the power options. It could even be some strange Canadian model. I'm not sure if it really matters, though, because now it is what it is.

The model number may tell you which model it was.
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=136126

stillmatic

Found out,
I contacted mazda.com and gave them my Vehicle Vin# and its a 1986 rx7 GS... They said that it is just like the GXL ecept it had none of the power features. The 5 lug is stock along with the manual sunroof...

welp guess I will just play with this one for awhile until I find a good deal on a TII down the road.

Thanx for the help!

Evil Aviator

That can't be right. The power sunroof was an original part of the 2Gen design. Also, there were no "GS" models of the 2Gen ever sold in the US. The GS was a 1Gen designation.

Nick86

iTrader: (1)

It's probably a "sport" model. It had the 5 lug GXL rims/brakes/suspension, but none of the power options. It also had some black plastic aerodynamic pieces aswell. One infront of each wheel, and a small black rubber wing that mounted to the rear.

I'm sure someone can pull up a pic of one!

stillmatic

original email from mazda.com (remember they have my vehicle vin #)

"Dear Brad,

Thank you for contacting Mazda North American Operations. I appreciate
the opportunity to respond to you.

Your vehicle is a 1986 RX-7 GS. If you are interested in Rims for your
vehicle, I recommend contacting a Mazda dealership. Mazda genuine parts
are available only through any Mazda dealership. We so not distribute,
stock or sell parts from this office. Please understand that parts for
discontinued vehicles, such as yours, may no longer be available. The
likelihood of parts being discontinued increases with time also. Your
vehicle being more than 17 years old, this may be the case. In the
event that a Mazda dealer does not have Mazda Genuine parts for this
vehicle any longer, I would suggest inquiring about aftermarket parts
that may be suitable.

You may also locate your nearest authorized Mazda dealership by
visiting our website at www.mazdausa.com/dealers/default.asp.

I hope that this helps!"

Nick 86 is right, I do have the 5-lug GXL rims/brakes/suspension and some black plastic aerodynamic pieces. Which are kinda messed up from the age of 17 years...

As far as my car weighing 1750... Is their a point where the car can be too light? Say if I do take out everything possible to shave some lbs off. Plus my rims weigh 25lbs each, is that a lot or a little?

Evil Aviator

Dear Mazda North American Operations,

There is no GS model listed in the S4 microfiche, nor is there any mention of such a model in the late 1986 sales brochure.

I have been an avid RX-7 enthusiast for 15 years, and have never seen or heard of an American S4 GS model, nor any 2Gen model with a stock manual sunroof. I would be quite interested to see documentation of these products, as I am always seeking to learn new things.

In order to better serve your customers, I would be willing to leave my high-paying job as an internet foum moderator to work in your operations department. I have three years of experience as an operations officer, and I would like the opportunity to help your stock recover to its level of greatness as it was in the days when Mazda used to sell real sports cars in North America.

Bigretardhead

you should be happy its not a GXL GXL's are just really heavy.

Evil Aviator

Perhaps I should define "GXL" suspension. The GXL has the following unique components:

1) An Auto Adjusting Suspension selector in the center console next to the shifter. There are two buttons; Normal and Sport.

2) Auto Adjusting shock absorbers. These are easy to identify by opening the hood and looking for the wires coming from the top of the spring perches.

If your car does not have the AAS switch or wires coming out of the shock absorbers, then it does not have GXL suspension.

As for the plastic aero parts, these were also available as official Mazda aftermarket items (much like your sunroof), so it doesn't necessarily mean your car is a Sport model. However, given the 5-lug wheels, plastic aero parts, and no power accessories, it does sound like a Sport model. Check the white sticker in your door jam and see if it has an "FB43" model code.

Your car's stock curb weight is about 1,000 lbs more than that figure. Unless your car is stripped to the point that it is dangerous and/or no longer street legal, it's not going to weigh 1750. You can take your car to your local weigh station and get it weighed for about $5-10.

Wheel weights:
http://www.wheelweights.net/

TriTurboGen3 RX-7

(qoute)I would like the opportunity to help your stock recover to its level of greatness as it was in the days when Mazda used to sell real sports cars in North America. (qoute)


Hell yes !

stillmatic

I checked the white sticker in my door jam and the code on the far top right corner says "FB05"...
what does that mean?

Evil Aviator

Are the first 3 digits of your VIN JM1 or JMZ?

stillmatic

one sec lemme check

stillmatic

btw this is a pic of my dads car

I WISH!@#!

stillmatic

my vin# starts with:
JM1FC3311...

Evil Aviator

Well, it's a North American model. Is the speedometer in km's or mph?

I don't know what the FB05 code is. I'll see if I can look it up next weekend, but hopefully someone else will figure it out before then.

stillmatic

speedometer is in mph of a max of 140 and it shows in small print kmph I believe the smaller print is kmph.

Steel

mine is at 2725 give or take... heavy=vert.