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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 03:17 AM
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So the engine is finally picked apart and everything will be overhauled, thing is i wanna get a streetport but im not sure if a normal streetport (not the large one) Will get me up too about 400-450 hp with the correct mods on the side (such as IC Turbo oilcooling etcetc) and a good map?

I need too clarify this before i start putting my engine back together

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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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you gonna need a big turbo, large streetport, standalone ems, big injectors and a very good tune to break the 400whp barrier.
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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450 has been done on stock ports
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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you will probably end up spending ~$10k to break 400hp with the motor rebuild included.
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by wackaloo13
450 has been done on stock ports
dyno graph and video please. certainly not on the stock ecu and not without a massive increase in boost.
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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it is very possible to get 400+hp on a normal street port. but it does hit the wallet pretty hard. might wanna consider getting a standalone.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 87 t-66
you will probably end up spending ~$10k to break 400hp with the motor rebuild included.
Only 10K? Ive already used 20K on this car....Got all the parts except the IC and Turbo ready..

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you gonna need a big turbo, large streetport, standalone ems, big injectors and a very good tune to break the 400whp barrier.

How is it that 90% of the info u get here is unreliable?

Originally Posted by iani1.1
it is very possible to get 400+hp on a normal street port. but it does hit the wallet pretty hard. might wanna consider getting a standalone.
oh IM hitting the wallet pretty hard, but i get all my parts from the US and thanks too the now "late" Bush i can buy my new parts in the US cheaper than i would pay for stolen parts here..What do you mean standalone bro?
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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What do you mean standalone bro?
Standalone refers to an engine computer that you can change the tune on.

Some popular ones are Haltech and Microtech. There are, of course, better and more expensive ones as well as cheaper and harder to use ones.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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How is it that 90% of the info u get here is unreliable?
How was any thing I said inaccurate? If you want maybe 401whp you could possibly get away with just a bnr stage 4 and 4x 1000cc injectors running on an rtek. Have you even looked at a fuel calculator? Power = Fuel + Air + Spark.

http://rx7.com/cgi-local/2ndgencalc.cgi 4x 1000cc at 85% cap gets your 490 flywheel hp. If you figure a 20% drivetrain loss that's 398whp.

I've spent almost 7k into my car and the absolute most I expect out of my setup is 350whp. This is with a large street port rebuild, bnr stage 2, 1600cc secondaries, and rtek ecu mod.

If your 20k into your car and are gonna just tap the 400whp mark then your not very bright . Chances are you have somebody else doing all the work and you are just going to drive it. And for 20k why aren't you dropping in a 20b. You could make 400whp+ with that for half the price and have a unique swap to boot.

And you don't even know what a standalone is?
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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10K is a little on the safe side?

AN experienced shopper could lower that 400hp range to about 4 to 5 thousand=)

1000$ mirotech
700-800 Huge used t4 turbo
300$ cast manifold
300 w/g
400$ ebay copy greddy intecoler kit.
200$ custom exhaust


NEwbie installatin fee's(lol) 1000$+ plus 400$ tune=P
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 01:43 PM
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How was any thing I said inaccurate? If you want maybe 401whp you could possibly get away with just a bnr stage 4 and 4x 1000cc injectors running on an rtek. Have you even looked at a fuel calculator? Power = Fuel + Air + Spark.

http://rx7.com/cgi-local/2ndgencalc.cgi 4x 1000cc at 85% cap gets your 490 flywheel hp. If you figure a 20% drivetrain loss that's 398whp.

I've spent almost 7k into my car and the absolute most I expect out of my setup is 350whp. This is with a large street port rebuild, bnr stage 2, 1600cc secondaries, and rtek ecu mod.

If your 20k into your car and are gonna just tap the 400whp mark then your not very bright . Chances are you have somebody else doing all the work and you are just going to drive it. And for 20k why aren't you dropping in a 20b. You could make 400whp+ with that for half the price and have a unique swap to boot.

And you don't even know what a standalone is?
Not everyone is a mechanic dumbf*ck! Do you know what a pointer is in a Mattè???Do i need too be too post or be a member here? 20K isnt that much here, its what i make in 3 months, Take your flaming elsewhere f*ckstick, u said i NEED a streetport too get 400 hp, like i was trying too break the soundbarrier or something, but according too the Wankel specialist downtown i can drain 500+ without a port by modding other stuff like turbo cooling oil etcetc

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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by OutCold
Not everyone is a mechanic dumbf*ck! Do you know what a pointer is in a Mattè???Do i need too be too post or be a member here? 20K isnt that much here, its what i make in 3 months, Take your flaming elsewhere f*ckstick, u said i NEED a streetport too get 400 hp, like i was trying too break the soundbarrier or something, but according too the Wankel specialist downtown i can drain 500+ without a port by modding other stuff like turbo cooling oil etcetc
Obviously grammar and spelling aren't your strong points . When you break 500whp with no porting and show a dyno video then I'll believe you . Until then you are just some kid on the internet who talks trash about the United States and claims to spend 20k on a build to make 400whp.

I'll leave your thread alone now.

Surprised Ted hasn't come in this thread yet.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by solareon
Obviously grammar and spelling aren't your strong points . When you break 500whp with no porting and show a dyno video then I'll believe you . Until then you are just some kid on the internet who talks trash about the United States and claims to spend 20k on a build to make 400whp.

I'll leave your thread alone now.

Surprised Ted hasn't come in this thread yet.
Obviously English isnt my first language, how come u know everything, but didnt know that? Im not the one claiming it can be done its the specialist downtown and ill take his word for it. All that money didnt go into the engine. **** i hate "knowitalls"...

Like i said man 20k wont get you far here, only the Radiator was 1200, i ought too start shopping in the US for sure, couldve been done now with the whole shebang for half that price come too think of it

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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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I bought this power chip from ebay that got my NA to 400WHP with no port mods. Why do you guys even need turbos?
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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im building up my GTUs to make around 400-420 to the wheels.

so far i finished taking apart the motor, LARGE Street ported the motor, picked up a t70, still gotta get my PFC and v-mount,

Link to my thread is in sig
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by zerox7
im building up my GTUs to make around 400-420 to the wheels.

so far i finished taking apart the motor, LARGE Street ported the motor, picked up a t70, still gotta get my PFC and v-mount,

Link to my thread is in sig
Thnaks man ill check it out
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 09:49 PM
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I bought this power chip from ebay that got my NA to 400WHP with no port mods. Why do you guys even need turbos?

needed a good laugh
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 10:56 PM
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ball bearing turbo on stock ports is doable. if you're going to get a street port get the best you can. it is not going to compromise daily driving.

little things people overlook are stuff like a nice clutch to hold this power. then suspension and tires so they are not running 13s with this setup.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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I have streetported the engine and im assembling it now, slooowly . Got a few parts ready like a new radiator is mounted , got my pfc and some cosmetic stuff, putting the engine back in start of january and then comes the driving carefully part because of the new engine before i get the rest of the parts, few pics below of the stash.











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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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nice.
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Originally Posted by OutCold
So the engine is finally picked apart and everything will be overhauled, thing is i wanna get a streetport but im not sure if a normal streetport (not the large one) Will get me up too about 400-450 hp with the correct mods on the side (such as IC Turbo oilcooling etcetc) and a good map?

I need too clarify this before i start putting my engine back together

Thnx
You're correct you don't need a ported engine to get to those power levels. You will just have to run a little bit more boost pressure that is all.
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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**** IT! i got it streetported , putting it back together after i had it ported at a local tuning shop since i didnt feel like grinding my walls too **** myself. Waiting for a new NSA Dynamo and payday so i can shop me a turbo
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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So the porting is done and the engine is put back together and goes in the car in about 3-4 weeks when i get some sparetime with a buddy too work on it, im wondering tho:

I noticed the exhaust ports wasnt ported, whats does this actually mean when it comes too the power i wanna get from it? Wont it be able too discard all the fumes fast enough with the standard exhaust ports?
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Old May 22, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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Wow, i said 3 /4 weeks back then, aint i the liar...

Anyway, this morning me and a buddy (mostly him)got started ripping the thing out and this is how it looks so far--








In the morning we will start moving all the external engine parts over too the new ported shortblock and if everything goes as planned ( wich it never does ) we will be putting the new engine in, hopefully being able too start and drive it on monday evening with a basemap.
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