J-Rat

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I spoke to Brad (rx7_ragtop) the other day. Dale is not here for some other reasons, but will be back soon.

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deltr0n`

its really not that hard to put your foot down and control all of this nonsence (moderators!?!?)...maybe we dont have to see Dave go...all we need is some authority around to keep the flaming to an all time low....how hard is that? get more mods! ones that have time to search the forum for flamers and noobs...

i said this before and i'll say it again, we need a separate section for all the noob questions/write-ups/how-to's/etc., in a organized list, and we would definitely see some improvements. make another sub-category for noob questions like "which exhaust?", "show or go?", etc... and we can clean this forum up real quick!

what Dave is saying is absolutely true, the forum is a little out of controll...and im begining to realize it...

Dave i hate to see you go, your posts have taught us all a LOT! have a merry christmas and a happy new year.

-chad

Fatty_FC3S

Unfortunately, i must agree on the downward trend. When i first started going on this forum, the people were nice and the information was pretty accurate. Now there are just bitter angry people and 95% of the posts are wrong info. This must be very frustrating to new people and i dont blame them for wanting to leave.

Its my personal opinion that alot of trouble stems from the lounge and people of the lounge mentality. 15 year olds with nothing better to do that cause trouble end up annoying vetrans while scaring off newbies, and thus hurt the entire community. I feel that the forum is a long way away from the original rotary community a few years back. Im sorry you have to go, but i also understand why. Thanks for all you have done.

88 SE

Get rid of everything but the gen specific and classifieds. dont really need the rest, ESPECIALLY the lounge.

jon88se

We're gonna miss you dave...thankfully www.fc3s.org has it's own forums in case we need some advice or wanna chat. besides, we have to keep tabs on your R&D

I'm not really fond of the "use the search button moron" threads...makes it a bit hard for some new FC owners to get the ball rolling. If they are new tuners they dont know certain questions have been beat to death. and even if they have, the exact answers should be a breeze to shoot back to them. I don't blame the moderators, one way or another I've gotten the answers I needed.

Turbonut

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I likewise, will miss anyone with a wealth of knowledge that replies with a cordial, polite response which has always been Dave's style.
We must understand, that with 25,000 members, various types of personalities will surface. I certainly hope we can all "pull together" and refrain from the rude, sarcastic, viscous posts/replies.
Good luck to you, but don't go too far away...A lot of people need a stand up person like yourself!

sunshine

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This is my take on this issue. I am not really a noob anymore, but there is still a ton of things I can learn about the 7. I love my car to death...and I would really encourage anyone who is interested in their cars to ask as many questions as possible. It is true that if all the gurus leave....some of the advanced knowledge will bw lost - so we must be proactive about this matter. Guys like me, who are not "guru" status, but also know the basics fairly well MUST take charge of this deteriorating condition. We must keep knowledge of the 7 flowing, or else there will be no one left here for us to learn from, as all the guru's would be gone.

I believe I have accumulated enough basic knowledge anout the S5 (what I have) to start some work on a few write-ups. I have taken alot from this community...its time to give some back as well.

Dave, good luck. I regularly visit your site, and will continue to do so.

Icemark

I respect Dave and will miss his input, as well as hope he keeps in touch.

But as too the Flame or lower mentality or whatever everyone else brings up... it has always been here. It always will be here. It's an Internet message board and like all Internet message boards it goes in cycles. Last year people were saying the same thing and everyone mellowed out for a while. Then it came back.

But it is free speech at its finest. And we make it what it is.

But I completely respect Dave's right "to change the channel" he listens too. (anyone that didn't get that referance should listen to old George Carlin).

yearrgh

I agree with sunshine. What needs to happen is for those of us who have collected a fair amount of general knowledge, or even large amounts of knowledge on the specific problems we've dealt with, to take responsibility for anwsering newbie questions. That way, the experts don't get frusterated and will be availible to anwser questions on the more complex questions we have on the long and perilous journey to guru status.

Samps

In a perfect world; everyone would pull over and help the guy with a flat tire ... this aint a perfect world. In your everyday life you have to sort through the bullshit; no different here.

Thanks for hosting the FSM!

$100T2

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I don't think the moderators can or should be held responsible for the childish behavior of the minority around here... People should actually proof read their posts before hitting the "Submit Reply" button and consider if the type of post they are submitting is helpful or a waste of time and space.
Dave, good luck and I will see you plenty on your website.

RylAssassin

Dave again im real sorry to hear you go , You are a very knowlegable person that has brought much information to us. I always visit your websight i find it extremly usefull.
Good luck!

vaughnc

I'd like to add that RX-7s now have mainstreem exposure. The little "cult of the rotary" is all but defunct now, and many people are resurecting cars out there.

Dave, it's only natural that were attracting some elements of the Y & Z generations. Personally I think the advantages (parts, exposure) outweight the smack talk out there.

I'd say 75% of the posts in this section are being responded to, and with good content.

Don't feel your being jaded too much, we all want to get as much exposure & knowlege going forward. I hope this isn't tied to ROI either, because instant gratification will never happen. However what you don't see is the newbies buying engines or parts from manufactuers (including yourself) in greater numbers = more $$$ for the gurus making our stuff.

Dave you contribute more mechanical & hands on knowlege. I'm contributing more to filtering the RAW AMOUNT of unkown information out there and letting everyone know what they can choose from.

You might follow RETED's example and just respond to the honest posts covering new territory. There still many out there.

We'll try to fend off the newbies with links to writeups, websites, & self help... but at the same time make them feel welcome & comfortable asking questions.

So just be cool and glad mazda & us rotorheads are even busier & happier than ever.

dr0x

Indeed. I think the only time I ever tell anyone to search is when the person ISNT a newbie (ie has 500 posts) and asks a question that gets asked atleast 5 times a day. Usually I just go do a search for the material in question or try to help off memory. Usually you can just copy/paste answers from another thread that is on the first 2 pages lol.

wpgrexx

shitty deals man. your site and teamsfc3s were the two first websites i found for my car. i have been a fan since the first test drive of a shitted out s4 gx. it's been 5 years since i got my rexxie, reading stuff that people like you posted on this site has been invaluable. thanks man, i appreciated the help.

as for your opinion on this forum, i would have to agree,, i have been a mamber for a while here now, and have seen the same change that you have. i find it is very difficult to get a question answered, the only threads that stay on the front page are wars about drifting or how rice things are, there is lees support for fellow rotorites than their used to be, we got to stick together against all the pistons, were greatly outnumbered

fc3s.org

Again, thanks for the kind words. I think allot of you have agreed with some of the things that I have said about the trend, and I think that I may have hopefulyl sparked enough interest from you guys to get down on people who jump all over others for no reason other than they are new, and don't respect others just because they like something that they don't.

I will still be around the web, and you guys all know where to find me.

Take it easy fellas