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Old 02-05-08, 11:14 AM
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Mini Turbo for N/A experiment!

I don't know if anyone has tried this ideal before and neither have I, because I don't have a Rx-7 yet. If you have ever been around boats you would know that they have a bilge blower, which blows out the gas fumes out a 3-in or 4-inch hose before you start the boat. These blowers come in differnt sizes and fit inside most cone air filters or you could extend the rubber air intake hose before the air flow meter and drill two small holes for the hot and ground wire and then seal the holes, run the wires to a switch or maybe some how run the hot wire though the TPS and then gound the other wire. The two biggest problems I see about this ideal is deacceleration or maybe the excess air will flow back out the filter and would the ECU give the engine more fuel for the excess air flow.


Here is link to a store where you buy these blige blowers

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...377%20710%2016...
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****IDEA*****

OK, now that that is said, let me tell you this:
Those blowers are probably much like the fan in your computer, plenty of CFM for the application but no pressure. On my Grand National, my turbo wasn't capable of more than 700cfm - I've seen proccessor fans that push more CFM than that! But, it could push 30+ lbs of pressure, something that a little electric fan will never touch - they probably aren't but a lb or two at the most.
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So you want to use this thing as an form of forced induction? Not going to happen - it will be more of a restriction than anything. Turbos have to spin at ridiculous speeds (100,000+ RPMS) to build enough boost to pressurize the intake, and I don't see that little thing doing anywhere near that amount of work.
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Old 02-05-08, 11:46 AM
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This idea is more fail than the Turbonator

http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11313831/Turbonator.jpg

It's slightly less fail than the "OMFG, AIR PUMP = SUPERCHARGER?" idea.
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Old 02-05-08, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by drittens
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Damn you beat me to it!

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Those blowers are probably much like the fan in your computer, plenty of CFM for the application but no pressure. On my Grand National, my turbo wasn't capable of more than 700cfm - I've seen proccessor fans that push more CFM than that!
Um, NO. No computer case fan or processor fan has EVER come anywhere near that type of CFM. The 80mm Vantec tornado pushes an impressive 84.1 CFM, the 92mm vantec Tornado pushes a MASSIVE(for a proc fan) 119CFM. Those are the some of the most powerful "case" fans you can get for PC use. I have 5 of 80mm units(2 for case intake 2 for case exhaust & 1 for the processor). At full speed these are extremely loud and you can hover a cd over 6 inches above the fans, I have them set to their lowest settings 99% of the time.
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Sounds like DEI has a competitor - just bypas the turbo -

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Oh sweet! Thats an awsome idea. I think ill do this mod right after I finish my silicone cross-drilled radiator hose upgrade.
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Old 02-05-08, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT
Sounds like DEI has a competitor - just bypas the turbo -

Dude, just think about how easy this would be to do with a Pport intake!!!
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this is the same thing as those electric supercharger crap
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Dude, just think about how easy this would be to do with a Pport intake!!!
The exhaust runners would be soooo short for the tytest mad hp.


















I see BAWlers
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Boy I sure do like where this is going
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Old 02-05-08, 01:00 PM
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LAWL lol might as well put a leaf blower in the intake pipe xDDDD if you want more air
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Does anyone remember the kid who wanted to mount an air compressor in his car? Instead of using an expensive NO2 kit he would just have ram charger on demand
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Originally Posted by danamezjohn
LAWL lol might as well put a leaf blower in the intake pipe xDDDD if you want more air
I can't seem to find it now, but there was a video of a couple of guys with a S-10 pick up truck on a dyno with a leaf blower duct taped to the intake tube and then they were spraying nitrous right into the leaf blower. They made like 20 more horse or somethin like that. It was freaking hilarious.
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The next time I see an FC, I'm setting it on fire.
I put mine up for sale
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Originally Posted by MAX_RPM
I don't know if anyone has tried this ideal before and neither have I, because I don't have a Rx-7 yet. If you have ever been around boats you would know that they have a bilge blower, which blows out the gas fumes out a 3-in or 4-inch hose before you start the boat. These blowers come in differnt sizes and fit inside most cone air filters or you could extend the rubber air intake hose before the air flow meter and drill two small holes for the hot and ground wire and then seal the holes, run the wires to a switch or maybe some how run the hot wire though the TPS and then gound the other wire. The two biggest problems I see about this ideal is deacceleration or maybe the excess air will flow back out the filter and would the ECU give the engine more fuel for the excess air flow.


Here is link to a store where you buy these blige blowers

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...377%20710%2016...


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